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Jdkrags
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 Posted - 04/03/2022 : 22:05:06
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| Hi everyone, I’d appreciate some help finding the passenger list of my 3x great-grandfather, Christian Olsen Hovland (1853-1931). I have his baptismal record and therefore know he is from Lavik, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway. I also have him listed in the 1895 Census of MN, where he is living with his wife Eli, and son Oscar, in Lee Township, Norman, MN. A note about this census, it says Christian has been in MN for 14 years at the time of enumeration so this would roughly mean he was in MN by 1881, give or take a few years. This is the earliest census I have for Christ (his nickname), and he and Eli married in 1893 in Hillsboro, ND so they came over separately. I’m hoping to bridge the gap between the US and Norway for him so if you need any more info I’ll gladly provide, thanks! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/03/2022 : 22:23:00
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This one?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000664201
There is a Kaiz Melling arriving Quebec in 1881... what ship is he on?
I'm guessing Christian Olsen Hovland is on the same ship...
Likely the one registered as Chris Howland. Looks like the ship is Ontario? |
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Jdkrags
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2022 : 06:59:25
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| This could definitely be him. One thing I notice is that his emigration from Bergen (the link that you attached) lists the ship line as Norddeutscher Lloyd, which I presume is the line of the ship he took from Bergen to Liverpool. After looking at the ship “Ontario” on this website, I see it’s line is Dominion, which means he changed ships to come from Liverpool to Quebec. I also see that his departure from Bergen is on May 2 1881, and that the ship Ontario departed from Liverpool to Quebec on May 12, then reached Quebec on either May 23 or May 25. Is this time frame of about 23 days enough to cross from Bergen to Quebec? Thanks for your help! |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/03/2022 : 13:01:32
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Sharp eye! 
I noticed the same, so I find this a bit strange actually.
The Norddeutscher Lloyds ("The North German Lloyds") operated out of Bremen, Germany, and was a competitor to The Dominion Line.
The ship they took from Bergen was a small feedership, which took them to the cross-atlantic steamer.
Having booked through The Norddeutscher Lloyds, I would expect him to go to Bremen, Germany, and then board any of these:
S/S Hohenstaufen Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen New York 1881-05-13
S/S Hermann Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen Baltimore 1881-05-13
S/S Main (1) Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen New York 1881-05-14
S/S General Werder Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen New York 1881-05-17
S/S Köln (1) Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen Baltimore 1881-05-20
S/S Oder Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen New York 1881-05-20
S/S Habsburg Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen 1881-05-11 New York 1881-05-24
S/S Kronprinz Friedrich Wilhelm Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen Baltimore 1881-05-27
S/S Donau Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen 1881-05-15 New York 1881-05-28
S/S Weser (2) Norddeutscher Lloyd Bremen 1881-05-18 New York 1881-05-30
If he actually arrived on the Ontario from the Dominion Line, I think there could be an error in the norwegian records... it would be of interest to see the original record.
According to the above; The Norddeutscher Lloyds went from Bremen to Baltimore and New York, and Chris Howland is registered as arriving in Quebec. So "The Norddeutscher Lloyds" does not make sence in the norwegian record... Also the Melling's are listed with Norddeutscher, and they also arrived in Quebec... |
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Jdkrags
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Jdkrags
Medium member
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2022 : 19:50:10
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| It’s also worth noting that on the emigration record from Bergen, Christ is listed as being single, a “ Tjenestedreng” or servant boy (which was his occupation in the 1875 Census of Lavik), and his birth place is listed as “Davigen”. I believe this also was mis-transcribed and is supposed to read “Lavigen” or Lavik, his home village. Also, his birth year of 1853 is correct. I think this is the right person. |
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AntonH
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Jdkrags
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Posted - 06/03/2022 : 00:31:50
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| Thanks for this info, I didn’t realize it was transcribed on Ancestry too. So it looks like these people all left Bergen at different dates that Christ, but they all ended up on the same trans-Atlantic boat, the “Ontario”. Like jwiborg mentioned above, they would have taken a feeder ship first and then gotten on a different boat to come across the ocean. Also something interesting to note, Arne, Berge, and Johanne all seem to be from the same village as Christ. |
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Christian Olsen Hovland immigration
