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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  06:39:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello I am trying to find where my greatgrandfather came from in Norway , his New Zealand name was Charles Swanson , his 1884 New Zealand marriage certifcate says born abt 1844 Norway , Parents Jacob and Maria Swanson , Charles was a seaman there is no Norway information known about him so any help would be great thanks

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  06:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, here is a listing of Carl Jakobsen b 1844 in the Norwegian 1865 and 1875 censuses and there appears to be only one who was a sailor Carl Gustav Jakobsen :
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&jt%5B%5D=5&jt%5B%5D=7&firstname=carl&lastname=jakobs*&birth_year_from=1844&birth_year_to=1844&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel

Okay from birth /baptism records in Norway, Carl b 1844 with a father named Jakob:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&firstname=charl&lastname=&roles%5B%5D=barn&birth_year_from=1844&birth_year_to=1844&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=jakob&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&related_roles%5B%5D=far&sort=rel
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/05/2022 07:02:39
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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  07:03:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thankyou did no think his name could have been Jacobsen in Norway , will look into it more
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  11:10:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He seems to match this Geni-profile, which gives his date of birth as "after 1844".
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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  11:35:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Charles died in 1899 his age was put at 55 so that makes abt 1844 , also he put his father as a shipwright thanks
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  18:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Charles' headstone:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/221241061/charles-swanson

And here is a family tree at familysearch.org:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/27YR-ZQ1
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/05/2022 18:37:22
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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 06/05/2022 :  22:57:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Archieves NZ have no record of Charles as a seaman although he was working as a seaman , the electrol roll says he was a seaman , its a pity he did not put where in Norway he was born , thanks for your help
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 07/05/2022 :  19:45:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely the birthrecord of seaman Carl Gustav Jacobsen from Christiania/Oslo:
But not a perfect match... Father is Jacob Christophersen and mother is Randi Olsdatter
Would expect the fathers' lastname to be Svendsen, and mothers first name to be Marie.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000037583663

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038027052853
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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 07/05/2022 :  22:30:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jwlborg I am no expert on Norway so I am grateful for any help I have been threw every dbm I could find online nothing seems to fit , because Charles married in New Zealand and the marriage certificate is in English I was thinking Carl Svendsen farther Svend Jacobsen
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 07/05/2022 :  23:46:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What does the marriage certificate really say about his parents? Spelling?

Being a sailor, with a father who works as a shipbuilder, and emigrated to NZ in the 1870s ... everything indicates that he is from the south coast of Norway.
I have a strong feeling that his hometown is covered by the red line in this map.
And possibly from the southern tip of Kristiansand and eastwards towards Oslo and the Swedish border.



A DNA test can sort your DNA by the geographical areas from which you probably inherited it.
Not sure if it could give you a specific Norwegian area ...?
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/05/2022 :  00:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

This is likely the birthrecord of seaman Carl Gustav Jacobsen from Christiania/Oslo:
But not a perfect match... Father is Jacob Christophersen and mother is Randi Olsdatter
Would expect the fathers' lastname to be Svendsen, and mothers first name to be Marie.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000037583663

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038027052853



And another nick, here is Carl Gustaf's confirmation, father identified as "Smed" meaning a smith:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000000993260
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DotH
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New Zealand
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Posted - 08/05/2022 :  02:41:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage cerficate says parents of Charles Swanson is Jacob Swanson and Maria Swanson , dna test has been ordered thanks for the help...my dna results came back and said Rogaland thanks
Edited by - DotH on 13/10/2022 22:51:02
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