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Originally posted by jkmarler

There is actually a 3 volume set of bygdeboker for Ringerike, which includes Norderhov called Ringerikske Slekter by A. Lageson. They are not especially good for information on husman however.

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Originally posted by jkmarler

I Here is the death record of Marthe Helgesdatter widow of Even Olsen #18
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-B3PP-S27L?cc=4237104&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A683K-YG1S

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Originally posted by ToreL

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Originally posted by jkmarler

Sister Aase Mathea lived into her 90s: If all goes well here is a newspaper photo of her:
https://www.nb.no/items/2f41127b2ad64ffe462b00b8e1bd7379?page=0&searchText=hagaringen

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The birth date Feb. 16, 1837 matches, so it must be her. According to the baptism record, she was born on Alme-eie, contrary to the newspaper-assertion that she was born on Vågård ("Waagaard.") But her younger siblings were born on (a subfarm of) Marigård, so that is where she grew up, and Marigård and Vågård are closely related:

I can find no bygdebok for Norderhov, but there is a 2014 book called Vågårds og Marigårds historie by Thorleif Solberg. According to this book, Vågård and Marigård were old, large, neighboring farms. At the time we are reaearching, Marigård was divided into several smaller farms, named Tandbergs-Marigård, Kihle-Marigård, Bure-Marigård etc. Hagastua belonged to Tandbergs-Marigård, som when Even and Marthe was said to live at Tandberg-eie at one of the baptisms, it may have been the same place that was referred to as Marigårdseie on other occasions. Moreover, Tannbergs-Marigård was later sold to the owner of Vågård and included in that farm, so in 1928 it might may have been appropriate to refer to her childhood neighborhood as Vågård.

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Originally posted by ToreL

According to the Geni profile, the Ole Evensen who had the son Even in 1815, also had the children Torsten (born 1808), Berthe (born 1811), Kari (born 1819) and Peder (born 1822). I believe Torsten may have died as a toddler already in 1809, possibly at the same time as an older sister Beret/Berith born in 1805.

Ole Evensen lived with his son Peder on the farm Nymoen at the 1865 census. When he died in 1867, one finds the following entry in the death registry protocol: Bottom. I had some help with the transcription of the text on the right hand side, and here is a translation:

The following Children: Even, Peder, Berthe(?) and Kari [.] Peder has presented a written Declaration of 13 October 1860, where the Deceased has left him the Farm Nymoen and all its moveable property, in return for necessary Upkeep.

So Ole gave his farm over to his younger son Peder on Oct13 1860. The custom of transferring the farm to the eldest living son was strong, so would Ole do this with Even still living? (Your Even Olsen died a month later, on November 14.) Maybe, if the son Even was alive but terminally ill at the time, but the timing is puzzling, either way you see it.

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Originally posted by ToreL

But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?

But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG

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Originally posted by dylankylesimon

Can someone translate the section up top in the first and second columns on the right page, want to make sure that Ole Olsen isn't Even Olsen's father?

Marriage Ole Evensen (B:1846) Marigaard
Father: Even Olsen Marigaardseie
Spouse: Anne Marie Eriksdatter Berg

I am reading Ole Olsen Marigaard, and then 18:25/4 2/5 or so?
And someone's name Marigaard

#21
https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29925405?h=c86fd8

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Originally posted by dylankylesimon

Can someone translate the section up top in the first and second columns on the right page, want to make sure that Ole Olsen isn't Even Olsen's father?

Marriage Ole Evensen (B:1846) Marigaard
Father: Even Olsen Marigaardseie
Spouse: Anne Marie Eriksdatter Berg

I am reading Ole Olsen Marigaard, and then 18:25/4 2/5 or so?
And someone's name Marigaard

#21 https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29925405?h=c86fd8

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Originally posted by ToreL

But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?

But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG

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Originally posted by ToreL

But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?

But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG

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Originally posted by ToreL

But why would you compare DNA with Hans' descendants? He was a brother of Peter Simon, right? So a positive match would only prove that noone was deceived?

But, as I said above, Peder Olsen Nymoen appears to have a good share of descendants in a purely paternal line. Here is a page showing his son Andreas' offspring a little into the ineteen hundreds: https://ibb.co/ngVjyqG

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