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dylankylesimon
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 Posted - 23/10/2022 : 01:39:58
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Let's trace Engebret Evensen, and I will post all the information that we or better you all, collected on him. Can we get the death dates of the children and Gunda? I would like to see if I can trace some descendants of them, to find a possible DNA match.
My family tree:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/158005990
Born 9 JUL 1852 on Hagastuen under Marigaard; died 27 FEB 1909 on Hagastuen under Marigaard.
#1 - Engebret Evensen Hagastuen
https://ibb.co/TmFzXnP
His Spouse is Gunda Haralsdatter born 12 MAR 1863 on Veienseie.
#24 - Marriage Engebret Evensen and Gunda Haralsdatter
https://ibb.co/n0CvPV3
Can we find a death date?
These are the children that we found:
Marte born 18 FEB 1885:
#11 - Marthe Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/jkzdW0L
1891 Norway Census - Marte Engebretsdr.
https://ibb.co/FBRpVPn
Can we find a death date or her family?
Even born 7 JUN 1888
#27 Even Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/CHVL5kB
1891 - Even Engebretsen
https://ibb.co/CtWvVhL
Harald born 16 APR 1891
#27 - Harald Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/J31HWzV
Gerda Emilie born 26 MAY 1894
#25 - Gerda Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/Ypt9Qmv
Olga Margrete born 6 FEB 1897
#14 - Olga Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/7KjXDbX
Gudbrand born on 9 OCT 1899
#50 - Gudbrand Birth/Baptism
https://ibb.co/B3JjVzZ
Half-sibling? Kristian born 23 MAY 1906
Can't pull up the censuses, but here are the information
1900 Norway Census:
Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Engebret Eivinsen, 48
Gunda Haraldsdatter, 37
Eivin Engebretsen, 12
Harald Engebretsen, 9
Gerda Engebretsdatter, 6
Olga Engebretsdatter, 3
Gudbrand Engebretsen, 1
1910 Norway Census:
Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Gunda Haraldsdatter, 47
Eivind Engebretsen, 22
Harald Engebretsen, 19
Olga Engebretsen, 13
Gudbrand Engebretsen, 11
Kristian Engebretsen, 4 |
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AntonH
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 23/10/2022 : 22:23:58
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Spot on! So there are definitely great-grandchildren to be traced.
Vår kjære mor, svigermor, bestemor og oldemor
Gunda Evensen, Jordestuen
scvnet stille inn i dag, 86 år gml.
Veme, 20. april 1949.
Barn, svigerbarn, barnebar og barnebarnsbarn.
Our dear mother, mother-in-law, grandmother and great-grandmother
Gunda Evensen, Jordestuen
fell asleep quietly today, 86 years old. Veme, 20 April 1949.
Children, children-in-law, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
I also send Anne Sofie Hval, daughter to Thorleif Solberg, the author of Vaagaards and Marigaards History. I didn't have the time to read this Norwegian Book that I have in front of me, but it might tell more about Engebret as well. |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 23/10/2022 22:40:14 |
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jkmarler
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 23/10/2022 : 23:52:04
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To your entry on Vida Engebretsen:
Fritak fra boplikten I
Fysisk hovedstyre i Ringerike har gitt Vida Engebretsen fritak fra boplikten på eiendommen Jordestuen på Veme. Fritaket gjelder fram til utgangen av 2004. Eiendommen Jordestuen er på totalt 33 dekar, hvor av 10 dekar er dyrka jord. Bebyggelsen består av en tømmerstue på 44 kvadratmeter, en mindre låve og et vognskjul. Samtlige hus er gamle, og blir ikke betegnet som brukbare etter dagens krav
Exemption from the residence obligation I
The physical executive board of Ringerike has granted Vida Engebretsen exemption from the obligation to live on the property Jordestuen in Veme. The exemption applies until the end of 2004. The property Jordestuen covers a total of 33 acres, of which 10 acres are cultivated land. The building consists of a log cabin of 44 square metres, a smaller barn and a carriage shed. All the houses are old, and are not described as usable according to today's requirements
I also found a Vida Engebretsen on Facebook from Veme, Buskerud, and just wrote him in Norwegian, wish me luck! He might be the grandson to Gudbrand, who knows.
Two children from my understanding right? Einar and Kolbjørn, right? One could maybe be his father?
Certainly our Gudbrand, Age is only a bit off, he should have been only 82
Oh wow Jackie, Kristian's 90th Birthday is spot on, as well! Good job!
Added Gunvor Kristiansen Anton, thanks! |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 24/10/2022 02:18:01 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/10/2022 : 00:23:21
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 24/10/2022 : 02:02:04
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Olava's death notice 30. Juni 1990 Ringerikes Blad
https://www.nb.no/items/ddfe0352b75a889260a2ed750053db1a?page=5&searchText=%22olava%20engebretsen%22
Kolbjorn Marriage to Ellen, mentioned in Death Notice of Gudbrand
https://www.nb.no/items/6ca749d174b9ca06a0feeb809ef4413d?page=1&searchText=%22Kolbj%C3%B8rn%20Engebretsen%22%20AND%20%22Veme%22
Kolbjorn Birth 26 Oct 1934, Death 28 May 2011, Veme
https://www.nb.no/items/638bc2f42bd1a56bdb672855d4e66e61?page=26&searchText=%22Kolbj%C3%B8rn%20Engebretsen%22%20AND%20%22Veme%22
Aunt Ellen Birth 18 Oct 1936 - Death 1 May 2013, Verne
https://www.nb.no/items/0090fee5123a062cb5f3df3d9502618d?page=32&searchText=%22Ellen%20Engebretsen%22
The transfer also includes Gnr 94, bnr 5 Soknedalsveien 56 (Gnr 62, bnr 139) has been transferred from Ellen Engebretsen to Jorunn Engebretsen Hagen, Toril Engebretsen and Vidar Engebretsen
https://www.nb.no/items/a473f753b0c6b4c39e24b88da696d4f3?page=6&searchText=%22Ellen%20Engebretsen%22
Those are the ones that I added on Facebook, probably son and wife
Einar Engebretsen and Agna - A boy 13. September 1959
https://www.nb.no/items/588af26547e7ea6c215cfd1b71a0e296?page=1&searchText=%22Einar%20Engebretsen%22%20AND%20%22Agna%22
Engagement Einar Engebretsen and Agna Skjerven Veme
https://www.nb.no/items/ad95a0f461d0536e6c803c15de0909bb?page=1&searchText=%22Einar%20Engebretsen%22%20AND%20%22Agna%22
Wedding Agna Malli Skjerven and Eianr Engebretsen, Veme 11 Oct 1958
https://www.nb.no/items/e231e75c37364e4ebe6032d612cffc28?page=1&searchText=%22Einar%20Engebretsen%22%20AND%20%22Agna%22
75 Birthday Einar Engebretsen - Appears to be still alive to this day
https://www.nb.no/items/8ff79920bca69e5a21b1b1c14ac43b2c?page=23&searchText=%22Einar%20Engebretsen%22
Good work today, we traced the descendants, and I think we got mostly everyone from Gudbrand Engebretsen and did a pretty good job.
Should move on to the next one
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Edited by - dylankylesimon on 24/10/2022 03:17:58 |
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 24/10/2022 : 14:39:38
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Vidar confirmed his grandparents were Gudbrand and Olava, so I think I can start tracing the others.
Did we find anything more on?
- Marte Engebretsdatter (*18 Feb 1885 Norderhov)
- Husband: Haakon Kristiansen
- Daughter: Gunvor Kristiansen (*08 May 1910 in Norderhov)
- Eivin Engebretsen (*7 Jun 1888 Norderhov)
- Harald Engebretsen (*16 Apr 1891 Norderhov)
- Gerda Emilie Engebretsdatter (*26 May 1894 Norderhov)
- Olga Engebretsdatter (*6 Feb 1897 Norderhov)
- Kristian Engebretsen (* 23 May 1906)
- 90th Birthday 23 May 1996 in Veme
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jkmarler
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 25/10/2022 : 03:51:53
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Hey Jackie,
Just want to update you after I spoke to Vidar today. Gudbrand and Olava were his grandparents. Everyone who came before Einar and Kolbjorn are dead. He knows that Hagestuen has been used in his family. He did not know about Peter Evensen emigrating to the US. I don't think he knows any siblings of Engebret, but there is interest. He also knows that Engebret has lived in Vagaard and Marigaard but doesn't know the family that far back. He said that he had a sister who would try to help me. Before 1914, Jordestuen was a homestead under the farm Veme Østre. Eivin took over the farm, then Kristian until he died in 1996. He said that if he didn't make a mistake, Gerda would have a son named Gunnar Roa, with a wife named Louise Roa. I think they are all dead, but their three children are still alive. He also said that Jordestuen is mentioned in the book on Norwegian Farms, but I don't know which one. |
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