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nilsanderson
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  17:09:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A possible is Nils ANDERSEN
Born 1909
Steward on board Kongsaaard
Traveling to New York 1951

Aff Publication T715
Aff Film 7966
GS Film 002297485
Digital Folder 007256091
Image Number 00961

Ship owners
BRODRENE OLSEN Stavanger
Regret cannot understand Norwegian when trying to get info from this shipping company.


Can any one Help with using this information

N J Anderson

jkmarler
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  17:48:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your previous topic on Nils Alfred Andersen:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6522

The manifest says he is age 40 and has spent 24 years at sea. He engaged at Stavanger on 11 May 1950. This ship is arriving from Curacao N.W.I. at New York. His height is 172 cm and his weight is 59 kilos. He has one operation mark in stomage (scar?). He has never been detained on arrival in U.S. as an alien. He is not going to be discharged at New York.

There is no other biographical information on his entry.
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  18:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Besides the manifest that is cited by you and the expansion of it by Jackie there are several other trips taken by a Nils Anderson in 1951. He is always a Steward on the Kongsgaard. Here is one of the transcriptions from Ancestry.com.

Nils Andersen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-195
Name: Nils Andersen
Arrival Date: 8 Apr 1951
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Curacao, Dutch West Indies
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Kongsgaard

A word of caution, there are several other seaman with a similar name and similar birth year working at this same time. There is a Nils W, Nils G and Nils Ivar.

Edited by - AntonH on 01/02/2017 00:18:22
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  18:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank You

Very sure Nils Alfred
Can any more info be gleamed from the various Numbers on the listing . Like a second name, maybe a seaman's log book?
Can this info be obtained from the ships owners records if they still exist?

N J Anderson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  19:46:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay here's a link to the index of Oslo sailor's mustering records:
SAO, Oslo sjømannskontor, F/Fa/L0002: Register for Kristiania krets, 1866-1930, p. 1
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/ru10040910220003

As you go through harvest the name and any numbers behind the name. The names in the index are approximately chronological, so you'd expect earlier dates, smaller numbers near the beginning and more lately born men closer to the end. That's just generally true but some names are overlapping in time.

The numbers are found in different albums, separate from the index and contain records of ship names, date of mustering, harbor put to, sometimes parents names and addresses, etc.

The majority of sailor records in Norway are not indexed and not all are available online. There are a few actual records from some other ports & places mounted online but not indexed.
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/01/2017 :  23:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an Otto Sørvik born in 1904. A fairly close fit to the Otto Sorvig or Sorvik who served as a witness at the marriage of Nils Andersen. Location is in the Hordaland County near Bergen.

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036667004349

Edited by - AntonH on 31/01/2017 23:53:38
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AntonH
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Posted - 01/02/2017 :  00:00:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the earliest record I have found for the sailor Nils Andersen born abt. 1909. He is listed as a galley boy and having never travelled to the US. Ship is called the Stella Polaris

Nils Andersen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Nils Andersen
Arrival Date: 7 Jan 1932
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Same ship probably the same sailor, moved up to cook

Name: Nils Andersen
Arrival Date: 11 Jan 1934
Birth Date: abt 1910
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stella Polaris

Edited by - AntonH on 01/02/2017 00:22:40
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