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AntonH
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Posted - 08/04/2024 :  17:30:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I suspect that the Erling in the original post is the son of Olga not a sibling.

Erling Olav Pedersen
1916–1987
BIRTH 13 FEB 1916 • Norway
DEATH 9 DEC 1987 • New Jersey, USA

Erling Olav Pedersen
in the U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947
Name Erling Olav Pedersen
Race White
Age 24
Birth Date 13 Feb 1916
Birth Place Farsund, Norway
Registration Date 16 Oct 1940
Registration Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Employer Manhattan Lighterage
Height 5 11
Weight 165
Complexion Light
Hair Color Blonde
Eye Color Blue
Next of Kin John Pedersen
Household Members (Name)
Erling Olav Pedersen

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/194583082:2238?ssrc=pt&tid=161515560&pid=322298536715
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/04/2024 :  17:33:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably his arrival

Erling Olav Pedersen
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Erling Olav Pedersen
Gender Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality Scandinavian
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date abt 1916
Birth Place Norway
Other Birth Place Spind
Last Known Residence Spind, Norway
Departure Port Oslo, Norway
Arrival Date 18 Aug 1939
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Norway
Final Destination B'lyn, New York
Years in US Permanently
Citizenship Intention Yes
Height 5 Feet, 10 Inches
Hair Color Blonde
Eye Color Blue
Complexion Fair
Person in Old Country Olga Pedersen
Person in Old Country Relationship Mother
Person in Old Country Residence Faraund
Person in US Johannes Pedersen
Mother
Olga Pedersen
Ship Name Oslofjord

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1004569146:7488
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ToreL
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Norway
819 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2024 :  17:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

Here is a record with his fulll birth date.

Anton Johnsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name Anton Johnsen
Record Type Burial
Birth Date 23 Feb 1886
Birth Place Farsemd
Death Date 30 Nov
Burial Date 4 Dec 1904
Church Name Bethlehem
Church Location Chicago, Illinois

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/218887:60722?ssrc=pt&tid=9106876&pid=202094139447


So that is definitely him; the date of birth matches: No. 5: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070530350296
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 08/04/2024 :  17:43:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

There is one fairly good Tree on ancestry.com that covers Sigvalds siblings.

Bolette Salvesdatter Vik
1849–1932
BIRTH 18 JUN 1849 • Vik, Spind, Vest-Agder, Norway
DEATH 1932

Johannes Andreassen Brådland
1850–


Elen Berdine Andreassen
1877–
Olga Johannesdatter
1879–1977
Anton Johannessen Dåvøy
1886–1904

Sigvald Emil 'Walter' Johannessen Dåvøy
1887–1961
Elen Leonora Johannesdatter Dåvøy
1889–


I don't think Olga lived quite that long. The year of death 1971 in the Geni profile serms quite well documented.
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 08/04/2024 :  18:30:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elen Berdine died of whooping cough (kikhoste) in 1881. No. 18: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070108670312

Nora died in 1964: https://slektogdata.no/gravminner/grav/5c98ab18-080d-4f89-b5b8-732d10da134d

Edited by - ToreL on 08/04/2024 18:42:38
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/04/2024 :  21:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As per usual there are some Trees on Ancestry with a more likely death date and one that matches the Geni record.

Olga Johannesdatter
1879–1971
BIRTH 3 NOV 1879 • Vig - Spind i Herad
DEATH 1971 • Spind, Vest-Agder, Norway

The likely incorrect ones use a death record for an Olga Andreassen born in 1882 and died in 1977.

Name Olga Andreassen
Social Security Number 083-14-2188
Birth Date 21 Jun 1882
Issue year Before 1951
Issue State New York
Last Residence 703, (U.S. Consulate) Oslo, Norway
Death Date Aug 1977


Edited by - AntonH on 08/04/2024 22:52:17
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rcjjohnson
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USA
5 Posts

Posted - 13/04/2024 :  19:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow. I am in awe. We have a family heritage book that offers a glimpse of the ancestry--photos of my lineal ancestors and maybe a brief mention of siblings, aunts, uncles or cousins. Once I put this all together, I will turn my attention to Sigwald's wife's family from Stavanger. The family home is "preserved" as the office for the canning museum in Stavanger. I have a bit more information about them, dating to the early 1800's.
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  14:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to Sigwald's Find-a-grave record, he was married to Berthe Michaelsen, born in Stavanger 1881-09-03, which points to this record:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000027738223

Note the domicile in Øvre Strangate, which is indeed also where Norsk hermetikkmuseum has its adress: https://www.iddis.no/samling/norsk-hermetikkmuseum

https://www.iddis.no/en/om-museet

Edited by - ToreL on 19/04/2024 14:22:12
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  17:29:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to one of the more useful Trees on Ancestry Berthe and her family also came to America. However I wonder about the birth place for Olava. There are no sources for her birth place so that needs to be checked.

Tønnes Michalsen
1845–1924
BIRTH 26 SEPTEMBER 1845 • Stavanger, Stavanger kommune, Rogaland fylke, Norway
DEATH 28 JANUARY 1924 • Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States of America

OLAVA KAROLINE AMALIE GULBRANDSDATTER LOKEN *32*
1845–1924
BIRTH 8 JUL 1845 • Moss, Ostfold, Norway
DEATH 17 AUG 1924 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  17:32:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like the marriage record for the parents.

Olava Caroline Amalia Löken
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

Name Olava Caroline Amalia Löken
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Age 29
Birth Date 8. jul 1845 (8 Jul 1845)
Birth Place Moss
Marriage Date 8. jul 1874 (8 Jul 1874)
Marriage Place Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Father
Gulbrand Löken
Spouse
Tönnes Mikalsen
FHL Film Number 1282679
Reference ID BK2 P146 CN35

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1273766:60095?tid=161515560&pid=322292936395&queryId=f692b45a-c046-486e-8a54-ed18ab2cf671&_phsrc=NXa2&_phstart=successSource

Original record Nr 35

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050923030568


Edited by - AntonH on 14/04/2024 18:07:57
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  17:43:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Following the 1865 Census perhaps the Tree is correct. It also shows several birth places for father, mother and children. Gulbrand moved his family around a lot.

Olava Garaline Amalie Løken
in the 1865 Norway Census
Name Olava Garaline Amalie Løken
Gender Kvinnelig
Marital Status Ugift (Single)
Age 21
Birth Year abt 1844
Birth Place Moss
Census year 1865
City Stavanger
County Rogaland
County Number 11
Counting District Number 0370
Enumeration District Strandens Rode
Enumeration District Number 000
Relation to Head Datter (Daughter)
House List Number 612
House Number 01
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Gulbrand Johnsen Løken
54
Husfader (Head)
Anne Marie Løken
54
Hustrue
Hakon Oluf Løken
26
Søn (Son)
Ida Mathilde Løken
25
Datter (Daughter)
Olava Garaline Amalie Løken 21 Datter (Daughter)
Gustav Løken
16
Søn (Son)
Anne Jacobsen
43
Huusmoder
Inger Jacobsen
19
Datter (Daughter)
Karen Jacobsen
16
Datter (Daughter)
Jacob Jacobsen
13
Søn (Son)
Anna Jacobsen
9
Datter (Daughter)

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038196004122


Edited by - AntonH on 14/04/2024 17:52:50
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  17:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like the baptism record for Olava, but it is different than the marriage record.

Olava Caroline Amalie Gulbrandsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

Name Olava Caroline Amalie Gulbrandsdatter
[Olava Caroline Amalie Loken]
Gender Female
Baptism Date 27. aug 1846 (27 Aug 1846)
Baptism Place Moss, Østfold, Norway
Father
Gulbrand Loken
Mother
Anne Marie
FHL Film Number 125921
Reference ID b5 p108 e127

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/17989425:60092?tid=161515560&pid=322292936395&queryId=a2c702c8-24ec-4a96-aaab-9beda450f66c&_phsrc=NXa4&_phstart=successSource

Original record Nr 124


https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060322020436




Edited by - AntonH on 14/04/2024 18:00:16
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ToreL
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Norway
819 Posts

Posted - 14/04/2024 :  20:32:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the 1865 census, Gulbrand was born in Ringsaker, hence it could be him in this Geni profile.

Looks like he moved to Copenhagen in 1836: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/291/pu00000000062476

Edited by - ToreL on 14/04/2024 20:46:03
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  21:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Gulbrand, father is listed as Joen Løken.

Gubrand Loken
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name Gubrand Loken
Age 26 years
Gender Male
Birth Date Ca.1812
Marriage Date 2. feb 1838 (2 Feb 1838)
Marriage Place Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Spouse Anne Marie Berset
Spouse's Age 25 years
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Birth Date Ca.1813
Spouse Previously Married Yes
Father Joen Loken
Spouse's Father Peder Berset

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/36532:1346?ssrc=pt&tid=161515560&pid=322129451524

Record Nr 28

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061110030094


Edited by - AntonH on 14/04/2024 21:23:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/04/2024 :  21:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gulbrand Joensen Løchen
in the Geneanet Community Trees Index
Name Gulbrand Joensen Løchen
Gender M (Male)
Birth Date 28 févr. 1812 (28 Feb 1812)
Father
Joen Thomesen Løchen
Mother
Karen Gulbrandsdatter Rolie
Spouse
Anne Marie Berseth
Child
Anne Gulbertine Løken
Gustav Løken
Hakon Oluf Løken
Ida Mathilde Løken
Johan Thorvald Petentius Løken
Olava Caroline Amalie Løken

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