All Forums | Main Page | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 NORWEGIAN GENEALOGY
 Kiwi Vikings & Aussies
 Norwegian great grandfather
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

Juleswat
Starting member

Australia
10 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2017 :  07:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My great grandfather was Norwegian and came to Australia in 1865 1867 on bark Bastiaan Pot as a ships carpenter However we think he jumped ship and changed his name to Andrew Rodrom and lived in Australia from then on. His naturalisation certificate states he was born March 15 1834 Trondheim to Maren and Gabriel. However our searching of church records is difficult without his real name
If we could find crew list of Bastiaan pot may give us a lead.

Hopefully someone maybe able to help

Jwatkins

Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3098 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2017 :  12:39:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Google finds a website that is not Norwegian about the ship Bastiaan Pot. Perhaps you can try it -
http://www.pietervanderhoog.nl/bastiaan-pot/
Go to Top of Page

jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4411 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2017 :  00:11:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm... can't find any record of this ship coming to Norway.

Andrew would be Anders or Andreas in Norway.
Rodrom is most likely an anglification of his original farmname, like Rendum - Rodum - Rydum - Rřdom - Rřdum.

Gabriel is not that common first name in Norway, but there are a few. If its correct, Andrew would be found as Anders or Andreas Gabrielsen in Norwegian records.

Here is one Anders Gabrielsen with parents Gabriel and Karen on farm Rotnćs in Aafjord just outside Trondheim, census-1865.

But (and there are two but's):
1) In 1865, he is married with two children.
2) He is born 01 Feb 1836.
Go to Top of Page

Juleswat
Starting member

Australia
10 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2017 :  05:17:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for your help. He has not left us many clues but The ship Bastiaan pot ( Sebastian pot) left from Gothenburg and arrived in Australia sept 1865 before departing 8n October If only I could get a crew listit would narrow the search
You would think his surname would be gabrielsen as Norwegian naming reflects
Andrew rodrom had 6 chn after marrying Martha venables / mc conville in 1876 and lived in country nsw Gunning Their names are mary, Joseph, George, Esther, Elizabeth and Annie
He died in 1911 in Australia
He may have had a family in Norway but can you check did Anders gabrielsen die in Norway Many thanks
any hints of where or what I should search would be great as there are many Aussies that would like to know about our Norwegian heritage

Jwatkins
Go to Top of Page

peder
Advanced member

USA
699 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2017 :  19:06:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have for a few days been working on this as well.
can you put the birth info source on this site? such as the link or perhaps just a copy of the record?

Peder
Go to Top of Page

jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4411 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2017 :  22:49:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Juleswat

He may have had a family in Norway but can you check did Anders gabrielsen die in Norway Many thanks

Good point. The Anders in question is still in Norway in census-1900.
Go to Top of Page

Juleswat
Starting member

Australia
10 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2017 :  23:12:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well unfortunately it can’t be him as we have newspaper reports of him in Australia
Our great grandfather died in country nsw Australia 1911
He changed his name to Andrew Rodrom we think when he jumped ship and as far as we know he didn’t return to Norway
his naturalisation certificate states he was in Greymouth New Zealand for 2 yrs and Orange nsw for 18 mths before settling in Gunning nsw where he lived for decades
He became naturalised Australian in 1906
Thank you
His mothers name looks like Marion Marian or Maren
Married martha venables/ mcconville in1876

Jwatkins
Go to Top of Page

jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4411 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2017 :  23:56:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can you post the record showing his mothers name?
Go to Top of Page

peder
Advanced member

USA
699 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2017 :  14:00:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/RODROM
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rodrom-3

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10450-840359/grenfell-record-and-lachlan-district-advertiser-nsw?indId=externalindividual-651d37ea97a9af5ea7ad50a9c2ba3ff0&trn=partner_Geni&trp=logged_out_matches_moduledeart article in a newspaper in Aust with George Gabriel Rodrom’s name
Grenfell Record And Lachlan District Advertiser (NSW)
Publication: Feb 5 1910
Bland, New South Wales, Australia


https://www.geni.com/people/Nerida-Rodrom/6000000009231702278
Nerida Susan Rodrom
Immediate Family: Daughter of <private> Field and Barbara Joan Field
Wife of <private> Rodrom

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger_avansert_e.aspx

1. Rodrom Genealogy | WikiTree FREE Family Tree
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/RODROM
Are your Rodrom ancestors on WikiTree ... New South Wales ,Australia - 18 Aug 1998 last edited 10 ... Australia - 1977 Andrew Rodrom - 1911 Yass, New South Wales, ...
2. Andrew Rodrom - Rankin Web Site - MyHeritage
https://www.myheritage.com/.../andrew-rodrom
1911 (at age ý~72ţ) In: Yass ... Nov 1 1905 - Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Text: "...Marjs, to Fsthcr Sarah, the cider daughter of Andrew Rodrom, of Gunning ...
3. [PDF]
GUNNING CATHOLIC CEMETERY Collector Road, Gunning, …
gundaroo.info/genealogy/cemeteries/gun_cath/gun_cath.pdf
GUNNING CATHOLIC CEMETERY Collector Road, Gunning, New South Wales ... 11 Joseph Andrew Rodrom 1885 - 1968 8; ...

Following info from ancestry

Australian Index:
Name
Andrew
Rodrom
Mother
prénom
Father
prénom
Death
1911 lieu
Australian Marriage 1788-1950
Name
Andrew
Rodrom
Spouse
Martha Mcconville
Marriage
lieu année
Name
Andrew
Rodrom
Residence
Abt 1891 Gunning, New South Wales, Australia
Name
Andrew
Rodrom
Residence
Abt 1899 Gunning, New South Wales, Australia
Bush/Shaw Family Tree
Name
Andrew
Rodrom
Children
George Gabriel
Birth
1839 Norway
Death
30 Aug 1911 Yass, New South Wales
Parents:
Gabriel &
Marion
Spouse & Children
Martha Venables
1846–1926
1. Mary J Rodrom, 1877–1884

2. Esther Sarah Rodrom, 1880–1937
3. see below:
4. Elizabeth Ellena Rodrom, 1883–
5. George Gabriel Rodrom, 1888–1977
6. Annie Selena Rodrom, 1890–1969
3. Joseph Andrew Rodrom, 1883–1968, b.&d.
Gunning, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse & Children
Ethel Maud MOSES, 1886–1979
Dau.
Kathleen May RODROM, 1914–2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Name
Joseph Andrew Rodrom
Birth Date
1885
Death Date
1968
Cemetery
Gunning Catholic Cemetery
Burial or
Cremation Place
Gunning, Upper Lachlan Shire, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio?
N
URL
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?
page=gr&GRid=101801470&ref=acom
Findagrave.com

Memorial ID
101801470
.....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Atkins Clayton Family Tree has more children for Joseph Andrew Rodrom:
Spouse & Children
Wife:
Ethel Maud Moses. 1886–1979
Children:
Annie M Rodrom, 1914–1914
Kathleen May "Maisie" Rodrom, 1914–2008
Josephine Rodrom, 1918–1992
Merle Frances Rodrom, 1925–
Robert Rodrom, 1926–1928

Private

Go to Top of Page

Juleswat
Starting member

Australia
10 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2017 :  21:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Peder for all that information We have a good grasp on his activities whilst in Australia and his many descendants in Australia however I will sift through the information again to find a clue to his Norwegian origins. Many thanks for your efforts

Jwatkins
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Norway Heritage Community © NorwayHeritage.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
Articles for Newbies:

Hunting Passenger Lists:

An article describing how, and where, to look for passenger information about Norwegian emigrants
    1:   Emigration Records - Sources - Timeline
    2:   Canadian Records (1865-1935)
    3:   Canadian Immigration Records Database
    4:   US arrivals - Customs Passenger Lists
    5:   Port of New York Passenger Records
    6:   Norwegian Emigration Records
    7:   British outbound passenger lists
 

The Transatlantic Crossing:

An article about how the majority of emigrants would travel. It also gives some insight to the amazing development in how ships were constructed and the transportation arranged
    1:   Early Norwegian Emigrants
    2:   Steerage - Between Decks
    3:   By sail - daily life
    4:   Children of the ocean
    5:   Sailing ship provisions
    6:   Health and sickness
    7:   From sail to steam
    8:   By steamship across the ocean
    9:   The giant express steamers
 
Search Articles :
Search the Norway Heritage articles

Featured article