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James Holmes
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 Posted - 14/07/2009 : 20:18:43
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I’m looking for my heritage. My great Grandfather Haakon Holm was born Nov.25, 1847 and sailed to Minnesota U.S.A in 1869. I’m looking for any help and information with this.
Thank you,
Jim
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 21:00:46
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Census-1900 for Carver township, Carver county, MN shows that his middle name starts with an "H"'.
Hakon H Holm, born nov 1847
Josephine Holm, born nov 1863 in Minnesota by German parents
Herold C Holm, born oct 1888
Hillard H Holm, born apr 1893
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Edited by - jwiborg on 14/07/2009 21:10:01 |
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James Holmes
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 21:58:41
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Herold C Holm, born oct 1888 is my Grandfather. But German parents ? Help what am I?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 22:00:13
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Using ancestry.com I will post all of the US census he shows up in. Here is the 1900 US Census
Name: Hakon H Holm
Home in 1900: Carver, Carver, Minnesota
Age: 52
Birth Date: Nov 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1869
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Spouse's Name: Josephine
Marriage Year: 1885
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Residence : Carver Village, Carver, Minnesota
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hakon H Holm 52
Josephine Holm 36
Herold C Holm 11
Hillard H Holm 7
Benjamin R Weld 26
Rebecca E Curry 23
Clara L Didra 19
Emma H Lemke 14
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 22:02:29
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Here is the Minnesota State and Territorial Census from 1895
Name: H H Holm
Census Date: 1895
County: Carver
Locality: Carver
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Race: White
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 22:10:51
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Even with all of the above information he was not easy to find in the immigration records. The only likely candidate was H Hollm. The orginal manifest does not contain any other data other than his name H Holm and his age 20. The date of arrival is off by two years from the census data but mistakes can be made in old data.
Name: H Holm
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Date of Arrival: 1867
Vessel: Peruvian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Peruvian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Roll: C-4522
No other passengers with the last name Holm and arrival dates from 1867 to 1871 seem to fit your man.
Note the post after the informatin from eibache.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 23:21:59
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Hakon Hermansen born Nov 25 1847 in Grue is most likely your Haakon H. Holm. He was born on the farm Holmen and his parents were Herman Christiansen and Anne Olsdatter, see #273
Hakon Hermansen moved out from Grue parish July 2 1869 with the intention to go to "Amerika", see #93
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Edited by - eibache on 14/07/2009 23:34:01 |
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eibache
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Posted - 14/07/2009 : 23:43:58
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If Hakon Hermansen born Nov 25 1847 in Grue is your great Grandfather, your great-great Grandparents were married Dec 13 1825, see #45
Herman Christiansen was then 27 years old and Anne Olsdatter 22 years.
Herman, his parents and siblings in 1801
Herman was baptized Oct 7 1798, see #108
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Edited by - eibache on 15/07/2009 00:26:06 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 00:20:18
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Thanks to Einar this is probably your Hakon Hermansen arrival into the US.
Name: Hakon Hermansen
Arrival Date: 24 Jul 1869
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Scandinavia
Ship Name: Columbia
Search Ship Database: Search the Columbia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 2
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_315
List Number: 851
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
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James Holmes
Starting member
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 04:05:56
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| Okay, I just got off the phone with my dad. The info that Lyndal40 1st came up with is right on with Carver ,Josephine,Herold and Hillard. He has no Idea who Rebecca, Clara and Emma are? My dad remembered Haakon was a general store owner was big with the masons and city hall in Carver. We are wandering if with the added info from eibache , are we talking about 2 different people or the same? Dad also remembers that Haakon came to Minnesota and left to Norway and back to Carver ? Why? Is their records of this or is he using Hermansen one time and Holm another? Dad is thinking he is using H H Holm (Hakon Herman(sen) Holm) as he also remembers the Herman as the middle name? From the info could this be ? Were dose the Scotland come in as in his search there was a dispute of are we from Norway or Scotland? Is it normal to have Hakon and Herman with different ser names? Assuming Herman was my GGG were does Christiansen go? |
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James Holmes
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 04:08:39
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| One more thing I forgot , THANK YOU ALL!! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 05:18:35
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| Well James those are a lot of questions, It was not unusual for immigrants from Norway to go from a port in Norway to a Port in England and then transfer to a ship from England to America. As far as ancestors it looks like Christian Hermansen and Sigri Arnesdatter had a son Herman Christensen who married Annie Olsdatter who then had a son Hakon Hermensen Holm who is your great-grandfather. If all of this is correct you have gone three generations back in Norway. It is not unusual to have three names the given name, Haakon, after his father Hermansen ie son of Herman and the farm name Holm. The farm name could change several times if the person moved from farm to farm. |
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jkmarler
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 06:13:44
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I am quite confident that your great Grandfather is the Hakon Hermansen I found born at the Holmen farm Nov 25 1847. Unfortunately the ship he travelled on from Norway to England has not been found (yet).
Regarding the questions on naming practice it would be beneficial to look into the online article
http://www.nndata.no/home/jborgos/names.htm
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Edited by - eibache on 15/07/2009 06:19:13 |
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eibache
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 06:30:21
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Your great Grandfathers parents were Herman Christiansen and Anne Olsdatter.
The parents of Herman Christiansen, your G-G-Grandparents, were Christian Hermansen and Sigri Arnesdatter.
Anne Olsdatter was baptized Aug 19 1803, see #70 her parents, your G-G-Greatparents were Ole Olsen Hoxmoe and Kirsti Hougnesdatter. You will find them in the 1801 census.
Ole Olsen Hoxmoe and Kirsti Hougnesdatter Garvig in Strøm were married March 18 1790, see No4
From the 1801 census you find the father of Ole Olsen (44) - it was Ole Olsen 74 years old. Kari Haagensdatter (68) is his 3rd wife but she was not Oles (44) mother.
Ole was baptized July 31 1757, see left column on right page his mother was Ronaug Thoresdatter.
Ole Olsen and Ronaug Thoresdatter were married Oct 30 1753. See middle of right column on right page
Ronaugs parents were Thore Johansen and Marithe Thorstensdatter, østre Bye.
Rønnoug was baptized Oct 13 1728, see top of left column on left page
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Edited by - eibache on 15/07/2009 09:23:04 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/07/2009 : 08:07:06
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Kirsti Hougnesdatter was baptized May 11 1766, see 3rd record in left column on right page
her parents Hougne Amundsen and Kari Houcherud were married June 27 1754, see 7th record in left column on right page
Kari Houcherud was a widow when she married Hougne Amundsen. |
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Edited by - eibache on 15/07/2009 08:39:20 |
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Haakon Holm was born Nov.25, 1847
