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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 23/08/2011 : 03:43:55
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In some of the earlier postings a candidate was brought forward named Elen Olsdatter Lenæs perhaps married to Anders Johnsen Lenæs. I think I found their arrival to New York. Thus she is probably not a good candidate, although we had perhaps already dismissed her. She is travelling with Andreas Johansen. Also the Husby family is also on this ship.
Name: Elen Johansen
Arrival Date: 18 May 1882
Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland and Larne, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: State of Indiana
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9459 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 03:29:43
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A possibility:
B Evenson (38)
Ship: SS Dominion
Shipping Line: Dominion Line
Departure: Liverpool, England - 1882-05-25, Belfast, Ireland - 1882-05-26
Arrival: Quebec, Que. - 1882-06-07
He is listed as single on the manifest...
While I have not found him, I did find several of the people near him on the ships manifest. They are the family Jørgenson including son Stine who proved to be the easiest to find. They are only two passengers away from B Evenson on the ships manifest for the Dominion arriving June 7, 1882 into Quebec.
This same family can be find on the Eimgranter fra Kristiansand on May 19. However I have not seen a person on the 3 or 4 pages before and after this family, that fits Børuf Eivindson.
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=48&filnamn=KRISTUT&gardpostnr=3693#nedre
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/08/2011 : 04:50:46
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Hi,
Interesting way to analyze B. Evenson by looking at other travellers on the list. I looked at the passenger list of the Eli Olsdatter mentioned on the Circassian mentioned earlier. That Eli's stated destination was Quebec but on the same page there are dozens of people whose destination was Fisher's Landing in Minnesota. Perhaps she changed her mind?
Edith sent me a copy of her recently received record of an Ellen Olsen whose declaration of intent was filed in Ramsey County, D.T. in 1884. In it she states that she arrived in May 1882 at port of Huron in U.S. It seems most likely that this Ellen would be the target Ellen because of her location in Ramsey County.
This declaration would have been required to file for a homestead entry which she did do later in 1884. Ultimately it was not documented in her actual homestead packet since she had become a US citizen due to her husband's naturalization status.
Another small detail in her homestead packet was that she, in the year prior to her homestead entry, resided in Ramsey County where she was working. And her family lore is that she lived in Fisher's Landing for a year prior to coming to Ramsey. So cirumstantially her date of arrival most likely occured in May 1882.
I've spent some time looking at the parish registers of Aamli, Tovdal at digitalarkiverket and find that they have several gaps. I haven't found any explanation of the lapses. Does anyone know why or if the parish was covered in some other administrative area?
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Lueke
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 07:15:41
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| I have an entry from the Bygdebok Collection at the University of North Dakota about Ellen (Eli, Oli)'s brother Knut, who was married twice. The second wife's first name was Anlaug. Bygdebok says her surname was Halvorsdtr, while familysearch.org says it was Tellefsdtr. How can I find which is correct? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 07:29:49
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Parish records would be one way.
Dates would be of great help.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 10:49:09
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Knud Olsen, Skjeggedal and Anlaug Tellefsdatter from Bygland were married Jan 8 1904, see #1.
This was Knuds second marriage.
They had a daughter Guro April 10 1904 and a son Tellef Oct 5 1905.
Knuds first wife, Guro Næresdatter, died Feb 3 1902, see #1.
Knud and Guro were married 1888, see #2.
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Edited by - eibache on 05/04/2012 10:57:04 |
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 04:45:14
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Originally posted by eibache
Knud Olsen, Skjeggedal and Anlaug Tellefsdatter from Bygland were married Jan 8 1904, see #1.
This was Knuds second marriage.
They had a daughter Guro April 10 1904 and a son Tellef Oct 5 1905.
Knuds first wife, Guro Næresdatter, died Feb 3 1902, see #1.
Knud and Guro were married 1888, see #2.
The Bygdebok lists:
Guro 1904
Telleiv 1905
Torund 1908
Anne 1910
Are 1912
Arne 1915
Ellen 1919
If these are all his children, then they are all cousins of my grandfather - in addition, of course to the children from his first marriage.
So I'm wondering how this book got all these children, and lists Anlaug as Halvorddtr. (Hylestad?) born 1885. I believe Tellevdtr. to be correct, but what about the remaining children?
This same book does list Guro born 1867, died 1902. Children
Olav 1889-1890
Sigrid 1890-1899
Tora 1892-1806 (obviously a typo).
Gunhild 1895
Olav 1897
Sigurd 1900 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 05:46:03
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What parish is covered by or the subject of the bygdebok you read?
Then look at the Digitalarkivet digitized parish registers engine for the records of that parish and then look for baptismal records of the time frame to see if the records are accessible..
Here is Knut's family in 1910 census. The birthdates &birth place of the older children in the family are given. That parish's records could be checked for the others born after 1910:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036565000435/
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 06:24:45
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Originally posted by Lueke
They had a daughter Guro April 10 1904 and a son Tellef Oct 5 1905.
The Bygdebok lists:
Guro 1904
Telleiv 1905
Torund 1908
Anne 1910
Are 1912
Arne 1915
Ellen 1919
If these are all his children, then they are all cousins of my grandfather - in addition, of course to the children from his first marriage.
So I'm wondering how this book got all these children, and lists Anlaug as Halvorddtr. (Hylestad?) born 1885. I believe Tellevdtr. to be correct, but what about the remaining children?
This same book does list Guro born 1867, died 1902. Children
Olav 1889-1890
Sigrid 1890-1899
Tora 1892-1806 (obviously a typo).
Gunhild 1895
Olav 1897
Sigurd 1900
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Arne is #2 on the boys side of the page here:
Source information: Aust-Agder county, Tovdal, Parish register copy nr. B 3 (1906-1941), Birth and baptism records 1915, page 24.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=157&idx_id=157&uid=ny&idx_side=-25
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Lueke
Junior member
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 06:37:08
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Then perhaps the whole list is correct; that Knut had more than those two children by his second wife. I'm thinking that the photo that was in my mother's possession could be of Knut and two sons.
Another question: when Knut's father died in 1901, the book says the following: Olav sjølv døydde 1901. Ved skiftet blei garden sett i 52.800 for løysing til odelsmannen, og der blei vel 120 tusen til arvedeling.
Does that mean that his sister, my great grandmother likely received money around 1902, when she first tried to divorce my great grandfather (to whom she was not really married, due to not having a divorce from Boruf Evenson?
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 06:46:04
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Here is frengly.com's take on your Norwegian sentence:
Olaf himself died in 1901. The shift was seen in the garden 52,800 for solving the inheritance man, and there were just over 120 thousand to genetic sharing. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 07:19:44
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Knud Olsens children with his first wife:
Olav (Ola), b Jan 10 1889 - #2 (death recorded as March 14 1890),
Sigrid, b Nov 29 1890 - #12,
Tora, b Nov 2 1892 - #6, (Died May 7 1906)
Gunnild (Gunhild), b Febr 18 1895 - #3,
Olav (Olaf), b July 27 1897 - #9,
Sigurd should be Sigrid, b March 6 1900 - #4.
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Edited by - eibache on 06/04/2012 08:23:18 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 07:38:11
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Knud Olsens children with his second wife:
Guro, b April 10 1904 - #1,
Telleiv, (Tellef), b Oct 5 1905 - #13,
Torund (Tora), b Nov 10 1907 - #1,
Anne, b Jan 22 1910 - #3,
Are, b Oct 7 1912 - #9,
Arne, b 1915 - #2,
Ellen, b Febr 2 1919 - bapt in Fjære church - #5.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 06/04/2012 08:36:58 |
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Olsen or Ohlsen Christiansand to Minnesota
