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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  00:24:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am starting a new thread. Don't worry, it won't be as long as the other on I started.

I need help translating a few thing here.Emmigration to Vardø, Finnmark #1-5

Can you tell me what is written off to right side of this group in the second column?

Thank you in advance for your kind interest in my family research.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 07/02/2009 01:23:53

Kåarto
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  01:24:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure what´s written after John Olsen, could be a farm name in Vaage where he was born, likely todays Vågå parish in Gudbrandsdalen, Oppland county.

Name: Snedker - Carpenter John Olsen age 26 1/2
The reason for the migration: He intend to stay on Kiberg as a carpenter
From where and where born: Coming from Hammerfest (town) born in Vaage

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 07/02/2009 01:32:05
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  01:54:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kaarto.

I'm sorry, it is the group below #1 on top, #1 through #5 beginning with Rasmus Andersen Dahl....

thank you.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  02:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The columns title is "Stated purpose for the immigration"

For Rasmus Andersen Dahl it reads: Hensigten var indtil videre aa søge beskjeftigelse paa stedet som Arbeider
In English: The purpose was for the time being to seek employment on the location as a worker.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/02/2009 :  13:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My fault Erik, sorry, I should have read your posting more carefully.
Vardø town was established in connection to Vardøhus Fortress from 1306.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 07/02/2009 13:20:05
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  04:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I would like to go there someday. It must be on of the most extreme places in the world for a city.

Could you have a look at the records for #38 and #39 Anders Torgersen and Siri Sivertsdatter? What are the entries off to the right columns say? Where are they coming from?

Thank you.#38 and #39 Anders Torgersen and Siri Sivertsdatter

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 08/02/2009 05:02:28
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eibache
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  08:26:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#38 is "Arbeid." (worker) Anders Torbergsen (Torbersen), #39 "hustru" (wife) Siri Sivertsdatter and 3 Børn (children)
they came from Strinden with the intention "ligesaa" same as above which was "at søge Næring" to get into business. ("at søge Tjeneste" to get work was an alternative)

Einar
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  11:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right Erik, Vardø by the Barents sea isn´t Florida, but the Barents sea has one of the major areas for cod fisheries and probably one of the worlds largest undiscovered remaining oil and gas reserves will bring progress and development to this area.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 08/02/2009 12:22:37
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  18:34:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
is strinden a suburb of Trondheim?

O.K. I was wondering why they didn't name the children on the list.....but you caught the "3 born". Thank you.

The Children must be:

Torberg Andersen b. 6-11-1837 (Horg, Sør Trondelag)
Gunnild Andersdatter b. 6-16-1840 (Horg, Sør Trondelag)
Ingeborg b. 1843 (Baklandet)

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 08/02/2009 18:55:15
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jwiborg
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  19:25:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten

is strinden a suburb of Trondheim?
Yes, at least a sort of suburb... it was a parish/municipality, and surrounded the city. Today, the whole area is under Trondheim municipality.



Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 08/02/2009 19:35:16
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eibache
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  19:57:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Torberg Andersen born June 11, bapt June 25 1837 (Horg i Støren, Sør Trøndelag) #15
Gunnild Andersdatter born June 19 1840 (Horg i Støren, Sør Trøndelag) #14
Ingeborg Andersdatter born Jan 27 1843 (Lade i Strinda, Sør Trøndelag) #27

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 10/02/2009 11:44:36
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 10/02/2009 :  21:22:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Eibache. Ingeborg Andersdatter is an ancestor of mine. I read her parents as Anders Torbergsen Rambrout and Siri Sivertsdatter....but I cannot understand what else is written about her name...

Also, is there a farm book that details the histories of the Trondheim people?

thank you.
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eibache
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Posted - 10/02/2009 :  22:49:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There seems to be some mixups in the writing of the place they were living, I read it Rangbroud under Rosenborg, before her name is written Kone - wife.
I am not the one to answer questions on available farm books/bygdebøker, sorry.

Einar
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  14:32:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume it means that Anders Torbergsen was from Rambrout in Støren and the christening was taken place in Bakke church which Rosenborg Congregation was a part of, located to the eastern side of the river Nidelven.

The next is hard to read.
Anders Torbergsen Rambrout married Siri Sivertsdatter age 27 on Dec. 28. 1836 in Horg sub parish in Støren, she was from Bordal in Sokndal.
Fathers: Torberg Olsen Rambraut and Sivert Berntsen Bordal, #15

Bordal - Berdal in 1801 census for Støren. Sivert Berntsen age 30, farmer and soldier married to Ingeborg Andersdatter, 4 children, three servants and his parents Bernt Sivertsen and Maren Olsdr, Lars Sivertsen "Inderste" is Bernts brother. Siri was from the wedding record born about 1809, most likely Siri age 1 died young.

Sivert Berntsen was a enlisted soldier in 2. Nasjonale batallion, Størenske Company, 2. Trondheimske Regiment (Organization of the Norwegian army 1789-1810).

Actually Siri Sivertsdatter Berdal was christened "Sexagesima" Feb. 25. 1810 in Sokndal, 3 column 5. from top.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 11/02/2009 18:42:50
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Hopkins
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  15:21:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Also, is there a farm book that details the histories of the Trondheim people?


Trondheim as a city will not have a bygdebøk written for it, a bygdebok is actually a rural chronicle and Trondheim is a city.

If you search for what has been published about Strinda and Støren areas of Sør-Trøndelag in such repositories as the LDS Family History Library online catalog you can find that there ARE books that might be of interest in your research.
For example:
"Strinda Bygdebok", 3 volumes;
"Bygdefolk og Bygdeliv i Storen", 3 volumes by Hermann Aune and Jens Haukdal.

LDS library catalog

You can check with Lookup volunteers and/or start conversation with a group of persons who concentrate on genealogical/historical research in the Trøndelag areas:

Lookup Volunteers
Trondelag Mail List
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  17:44:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Kåarto.

These Sør Trondelag ledgers seem more difficult to read than the Hallingdal records I have been pouring over this past year.

I don't see where you get the "Sexagisma". I see that name but it seems as if that is another child. I see Sirri two lines down below that, however.....
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