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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  04:43:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, it's your topic and if you are happy rereading the same information over and over, I guess that's fine. However as a volunteer of time and effort it seems incredibly wasteful of both the earlier effort and the later effort when the same actions are unnecessarily repeated. You as topic originator should be on top of all the detail. The rest of us are mercenaries.
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  05:46:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by lornejohnson

This is encouraging ...I have Knud Kophoe (Anne Halvorsdat.. b 1782 husband ) showing as godparent for Nils Johannesen b 1822 ....son of Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdat.

edited to read correctly: Anne Halvorsdat. ....daughter of Halvor Jorgensen and Ingeborg Jensdat.


# 46: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011061124.jpg

This makes a connection between the generations. Please confirm I have this name correct as a godparent of Nils Johannesen.
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Lorne Johnson
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  09:59:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A small correction, Knud Kophøl.

Bø 1822.
Nils Johannesen b. July 16, bapt in church July 21.
Parents; Johannes Jørgensen and Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven.
Godparents; Aaste Avskilt, Aaste Myhre, Ingeborg Kleven, Knud Kophøl, Ole Lundene.

Knud Kophøl, Knud Iversen Kophøl (married 1. time to Anne Halvorsdatter Kophøl, married second time 1819 Margit Gundersdatter) Knuds and Annes daughter Ingebjørg b. 1811 married Erik Helland from Bø. He was one of Norways best fiddle makers.

Knud Iversen was from Harpestad
Anne Halvorsdatter was from Kophøl

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 10/07/2015 10:57:32
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  16:00:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

A small correction, Knud Kophøl.

Bø 1822.
Nils Johannesen b. July 16, bapt in church July 21.
Parents; Johannes Jørgensen and Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven.
Godparents; Aaste Avskilt, Aaste Myhre, Ingeborg Kleven, Knud Kophøl, Ole Lundene.

Knud Kophøl, Knud Iversen Kophøl (married 1. time to Anne Halvorsdatter Kophøl, married second time 1819 Margit Gundersdatter) Knuds and Annes daughter Ingebjørg b. 1811 married Erik Helland from Bø. He was one of Norways best fiddle makers.

Knud Iversen was from Harpestad
Anne Halvorsdatter was from Kophøl

Kåre



I think that reads Johannes Halvorsen not Jorgensen ?

Lorne Johnson
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  16:03:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right, Johannes Halvorsen.

Kåre
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  16:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The information provided by Kåre above opens up a lot of information on the internet. There are several family trees for Anne Halvorsdatter Kophøl. Unfortunately I have not found any that detail her ancestry, but many do provide her descendants and some even have an e-mal address.

http://www.holla-og-lundeslekt.org/slekt/showDecendants.do?IId=48933

Famly of Knut Ivarsson Kophøl and his second wife. Does have an e-mail address.

http://home.online.no/~rkkaasa/slekt/aner/f1453.htm

Edited by - AntonH on 10/07/2015 17:00:47
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  17:12:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the children of Johannes and Gunhild listed on Ancestry.com and a link to Digitalarkivet. It may help your case to put all of the witneses together in a list to compare.

Halvor Johanesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Halvor Johanesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 aug 1819
Baptism Date: 15 aug 1819
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Johanes Halvorsen
Mother: Gunild Nilsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNVB8P

See number 46

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-40

Nils born in 1822 you already have.

Ingeborg born in 1825 I think you already have, born in Sauherad.

Johannes born in 1829, I think you already have him but if not he is easily found.


Edited by - AntonH on 10/07/2015 17:22:46
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  17:24:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With all the birthdates given for Knut Iverson's children from 1811-1818 in one of those databases you can look at each of the faddernes. One thing interesting here is the set of twins in 1818 are each named Knut #17 & #18.:

Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Birth and baptism records 1818, page 46-47.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-27

Ane's death #10 right page:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Death and burial records 1818, page 196-197.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-110


Edited by - jkmarler on 10/07/2015 17:32:17
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  20:37:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Here are the children of Johannes and Gunhild listed on Ancestry.com and a link to Digitalarkivet. It may help your case to put all of the witneses together in a list to compare.

Halvor Johanesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Halvor Johanesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 aug 1819
Baptism Date: 15 aug 1819
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Johanes Halvorsen
Mother: Gunild Nilsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNVB8P

See number 46

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-40

Nils born in 1822 you already have.

Ingeborg born in 1825 I think you already have, born in Sauherad.

Johannes born in 1829, I think you already have him but if not he is easily found.





See page 9 for this information. I've asked for translation of a couple of my people a few posts back ....still waiting (I can't decipher all the names).....need some help here please.

Lorne Johnson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 10/07/2015 :  23:26:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knut's 2nd marriage #15 little over a year after Ane's death:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Marriage records 1819, page 390-391.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-231
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  01:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for your help once again. When I get a chance I'll print the list of the faddernes for Ane's children to see if we have any names common to both generations. Job well done ! Muchly appreciated !

Lorne Johnson
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  03:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be a reasonable thing to discover whether or not Knut and Margit name their first girl child after Anne, since she was herself named after her father's first wife.

Edited by - jkmarler on 11/07/2015 03:45:38
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  16:14:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
With all the birthdates given for Knut Iverson's children from 1811-1818 in one of those databases you can look at each of the faddernes. One thing interesting here is the set of twins in 1818 are each named Knut #17 & #18.:


I wonder if the parish record is wrong on the names. I noticed that the Famly Tree has the names of the twins as Knud and Ane. This Ane is the second daughter according to the list. Ingeborg being the first. Also the name of Knud's mother is also Anne according to the Family Tree.

Edited by - AntonH on 11/07/2015 16:15:27
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  16:20:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking further, the Ancestry.com data base has her name as Ane as well.

Ane Knudsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ane Knudsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 27 mar 1818
Baptism Date: 29 mar 1818
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Mother: Ane Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNV3XM

and her twin broher

Name: Knud Knudsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 mar 1818
Baptism Date: 29 mar 1818
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Mother: Ane Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNV452

Edited by - AntonH on 11/07/2015 16:21:02
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  16:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lornejohnson

Johannes and Gunilds Children Baptism Witnesses:

Anders b 1841 Boe
Krysti Johansdat
Margit Halvorsdat Kaasa
Halvor Halvorsen Skougen
Tosten Olsen Hougeland
Guro Handsdat Askilt

Johannes b 1834 Boe
Margit Indlaggen ?
Gunild ??
Annund Hord.....?
Gunild Nilsdat

Ingeborg b 1825 Sauda
Aaste Tollopsen ?
Anne Olsdat
Gunder Olsen
Ole Johnsen
?? Tosten

Nils b 1822 Boe
Aafte Askilt
Aafte Mijloe???
Ingelborg Kleven
Knud Togsol ?
Ole Lunde ?

Halvor b 1819 Boe
Gunild Volene
Margit Hapsot ???
Birgit Lie
2 more ..can't read







Halvor's
Gunild Voldene
Margit (I wonder if it is Køphol?)
Bergit Lie
Knud Iverson (the former brother-in-law)
Anund Haslekaasa
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