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lornejohnson
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 Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:08:07
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Originally posted by Kåarto
I am not sure if you have seen this before, there are so many names and pages.
Halvor Johannesen b. August 10. 1819 on Kleven in Bø.
Parents; Johannes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven under Askilt, #47
Thanks, yes I have this information which makes me think we should be concentrating on Bo Telemark in search for Johanes . |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:29:11
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I also believe that we perhaps should perhaps stay in Bø and look into the church books there.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 19:48:57
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Searching close to home here is a Johannes Halvorsen , 10th one in the far right column of the right hand page:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1785-1815), Confirmation records 1804-1806, page 291-292.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7917&idx_id=7917&uid=ny&idx_side=-148
He is on Rødklev which is a farm under Østerli.
Possibly him in 1801:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058310001139
Here is a marriage of a Halvor Jorgenson and Ingeborg Jensdatter in Telemark:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSC-XMD
They had a son named Jøraan, 7th entry on right page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1785, page 120.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-122
(There is a Jørgen Halvorson age 16 working for the farm owner of the farm the family was on in 1801)
They had a Johannes baptized the 15th Sunday after Trinity in 1787 in Seljord, the fifth entry on the left side:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1788, page 129.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-13
I have a feeling that this is the right Johannes.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 20:25:06
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Kleven was a sub farm under Søndre (Southern) Askilt. Kleven was also spelled Kleiva and means a Steep hill and is located to the west side of the Hørte river.
No names of the family mentioned on the farm in "Bø-soga"
Trying to find out more about the family on Rødklev "The red steep hill"
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 21:22:15
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Rødklev (Raukleiv)
Not much info to share.
1792 Halvor Jørgensen and Ingeborg Jonsdatter with 5 chilfden leased Rødkleiv.
Probate after Halvor and Ingeborg was held 1815 and the farm was ca 1820 taken over by a son Ole Halvorsen and wife Johanne Olsdatter, a daughter Mette b. 1826 married Anund Olsen Stavholt. They em. to America 1853.
Ole Halvorsen is mentioned on Rødklev 1838 as owner of Rødklev, he sold the farm 1854, he and a relative em. to America some years later.
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 21:23:26
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Originally posted by Kåarto
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Searching close to home here is a Johannes Halvorsen , 10th one in the far right column of the right hand page:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1785-1815), Confirmation records 1804-1806, page 291-292.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7917&idx_id=7917&uid=ny&idx_side=-148
He is on Rødklev which is a farm under Østerli.
Possibly him in 1801:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058310001139
Here is a marriage of a Halvor Jorgenson and Ingeborg Jensdatter in Telemark:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSC-XMD
They had a son named Jøraan, 7th entry on right page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1785, page 120.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-122
(There is a Jørgen Halvorson age 16 working for the farm owner of the farm the family was on in 1801)
They had a Johannes baptized the 15th Sunday after Trinity in 1787 in Seljord, the fifth entry on the left side:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1788, page 129.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-13
I have a feeling that this is the right Johannes.
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Possibly him in 1801: There are a couple of things I like about this ...the family name Kittilsen where Jorgen Halvorsen is working . I'm pretty sure that Johane's daughter Ingeborg married a Kittilsen in America ....likely strong ties between these two families. ....supports the interest in this being Johane's family. Also ....Halvor Kittilsen wife and Halvor Jorgensen's wife are both Jensdatter ....possibly sisters ??
And confirmed that Johane's daughter Ingeborg did marry an Ole Kittilson in Illinois. |
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 10/06/2015 21:36:00 |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 22:45:42
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061213310149.jpg
Hope this works ...looks like the birth announcement for Johanes ....Seljord 1787 - 5th entry down on the left. Perhaps we already have this on this post. .....translation please |
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Edited by - lornejohnson on 10/06/2015 22:51:14 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 23:00:37
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15th Sunday after Trinty 1787 (Sept. 16)
Bapt. of Johannes (Halvorsen) to Halvor Jørgensen and Ingeborg Jensdatter Rui? in Flatdal, a sub parish in Sillejord present Seljord.
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 23:21:40
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| So what can I do to ....what information do I need to connect Halvor Jorgensen & Ingeborg Jensdat. to my Johanes Halvorsen ?? Anyone have access to a Bygdebok?? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 10/06/2015 : 23:46:46
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The Bygdebok from Bø "Bø-soga" 3 volumes are online, but not updated, they were published 1986, long before the records were online.
Bygdebok from Seljord, 3 volumes from 1942-43 by Tov Flatin are not online. He was born 1878, so he or somone he knew had knowledge to many of those he wrote about. .
The Digitsed Real Estate Registers from Telemark are not online, they will be.
The Probate registers for Telemark are online but not categorized by municipalities.
Em. records if you know where to look.
One chance is to come across something on internet or somone out there find this topic and has the answer.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 10/06/2015 23:53:51 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/06/2015 : 02:26:12
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Jackie, I found this in one of the Ancestry.com Family Trees,, and I remember you referring to this source a few times so perhaps it will provide some additinal informatin.
Johannes Halvorsen
Death October 27, 1849 in Long Prairie Parish, Boone County, Illinois
1849
27 Oct
Age: 56
Jefferson Prairie, Illinois
This is noted in "A biographical directory 1825-1850 vol 1 " by Gerhart Naeseth pg 278 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 : 03:09:14
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I think I quoted the part about Johannes Halvorson in the other Gunnild topic. The book does not give his age as 56. It says ".... Johannes Halvorsen Kleven b. 1789? He was buried at Jefferson Prairie, Oct. 27, 1849...." He is listed as married to Gunnild Nilsdatter Kleven. She came on Tecumseh which landed in New York on 17 Aug 1843 coming from Havre.
I think the 56 is probably an attempt to make the records here match the records in Norway, i.e. born 1792/1793. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/06/2015 : 03:18:39
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Rødklev (Raukleiv)
Not much info to share.
1792 Halvor Jørgensen and Ingeborg Jonsdatter with 5 chilfden leased Rødkleiv.
Probate after Halvor and Ingeborg was held 1815 and the farm was ca 1820 taken over by a son Ole Halvorsen and wife Johanne Olsdatter, a daughter Mette b. 1826 married Anund Olsen Stavholt. They em. to America 1853.
Ole Halvorsen is mentioned on Rødklev 1838 as owner of Rødklev, he sold the farm 1854, he and a relative em. to America some years later.
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So get the actual probate record and see if any of the other children are mentioned. That would be one possible avenue to connect them.
We haven't talked about an Ole Halvorson it might benefit you to find out about him. Perhaps he was a son from Halvor's first marriage?
The first son of Johannes & Gunnild was named Halvor. The first girl was named Ingeborg. Circumstantial but it points a way.
Get all the faddernes for all of Johannes' and Gunnild's children. Then look at the potential siblings Anne, Jørgen, Birgit, Gunnild and Ole and see if Johannes & Gunnild ever stood faddernes to their kids. |
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AntonH
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/06/2015 : 13:08:05
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The Probate register are organized 
"Categorized" Probate records for Telemark, Bø starts 1838, almost at bottom is "Øvre Telemark" that to my knowledge includes Sauherad, Seljord and Bø link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 11/06/2015 13:10:01 |
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Johanes Halvorsen Parents
