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AntonH
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 Posted - 05/05/2014 : 16:34:44
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Some time ago in one of my earlier posts one of the frequent Norwegian posters had a link to a list of the Vest-Agder attendees at the celebration for the crowning of Christian IV King of Denmark and then Norway. I would like to see that list again. It is I think somewhere in the Digitalarkivet web site and was put together by Christian Feljsgaard (sp?). I cannot seem to find it. Here is a reference to the event that I obtained from a family tree.
KIDDEL HAALAND var i 1591 med og valde utsendingar pċ Vats ting til Christian IV.'s hylling i Oslo.
Han betalte festningsskatten frċ 1594-1604. [2]
If someone could provide me with a link to the document, I would be most appreciative.. |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/05/2014 16:35:48 |
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jwiborg
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Kċarto
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Posted - 05/05/2014 : 21:31:06
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Kiddil Haaland on farm nr 21 paid "Akershusskatt", a tax to finance major fortifications in Norway named after Akershus Fortress in Oslo, the tax for 1594 link
Only farmers paid "Akershusskatt"
In another doc. Kiddil Haalands tax in 1594 was 0,21.
Perhaps 0,21 Riksdaler.
One Riksdaler was 4 Mark or 96 Shilling changed to Spesiedaler from 1560.
One Spesiedaler was later converted to 4 kroner in 1875.
The total Akershus-tax for Lister Len, the western part of Vest-Agder county, 1594 was on 916,77 Daler.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 05/05/2014 23:49:14 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/05/2014 : 23:00:31
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Thank you for the quick response and the additinal information. What does the word odel mean in the following sentence.?
Odelsmanntall fra 1624 har han odel i Smedsland, sammen med 2 andre, Knud Ellesi og Gunuald Stray |
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jwiborg
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Kċarto
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 00:06:54
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Have you seen this family-tree for the Smedsland family?
Source; Grindheim Gards- og ĉttesoge page 336 link
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 16:07:43
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Have you seen this family-tree for the Smedsland family?
Yes, the owner and I share three ancestors
Kiddel Haaland
Knut Ĝdne
and Svencke Smitland |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2014 16:20:18 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 16:17:20
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(For a) farm (to) become allodium by gain, it must have been owned by the same family for a specific period of time, without objection by or claim from an earlier owner with allodium. According to the oldest regional law, Gulatingsloven, a farm became allodium property after 6 generations' ownership
If I read this description of Odel correctly, it is possible that the farm in question was owned by the ancestors of Kiddel Haaland for the previous six generations. And if one considers a generation 25 years or so, that woud mean the direct ancestors of Kiddle lived on the farm for the previous 150 years. Or as long ago as 1400 since Kiddel was born about 1550. That is quite some time ago. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 18:10:11
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Your ancestor?
Haaland in Grindheim parish July 22. 1425.
Thorkel Eiriksson sells the whole Haaland to Eilif Gunnarsson for the value of 5 "Merker" Gold link
Mark, Merker in majority, was an old unit of measurement that lasted until ca 1550.
One Mark was 217 gram
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/05/2014 : 00:18:55
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I would assume that we would need some further proof that Kiddel Haaland was a direct descendant of Eilif Gunnarsson, which may be hard to come by. However the date of sale could mean that Kiddel and his ancestors for 6 generations would stretch back to Eilif Gunnarsson and thus give Kiddel Odel to this property?
One of the problems is that there are not very many Diplomatarium Norvegicum that survived for the Agder region. Here is a link to a list of Diplomatarium Norvegicum which includes a summary of the one you posted.
http://spesial.b.uib.no/files/2013/03/komplett-diplomkatalog2endret.pdf |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/05/2014 00:19:21 |
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