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larsoyane
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 Posted - 04/03/2015 : 16:31:37
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Dear Listers!
I am "stuck" on several genealogical problems in the US, and one of them is as follows:
Philip Olous Phillips, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. 15, 1899 to Norwegian emigrant parents, died at Edgerton, WI May 22, 1953. He married at Edgerton, WI Aug. 28, 1943 to this lady:
Myrtle Devina Neargarder, 28 years old, born at Cambridge, Jefferson Co., WI as the daughter of Morrise Neargarder and Diana Jerstid.
The couple resided at Edgerton, Rock Co., WI, but had no children and divorced in 1946.
Can anyone help me identify Myrtle Neargarder? Birthdate? What became of her? Who were her parents?
I have a feeling I have searched "everywhere", in particular census records, but find absolutely no trace of her!
Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2015 : 22:53:40
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The first wife of Wilson Neargarder was probably named Clara.
From the 1930 US Census
Name: Wilson Neargarder
[Wilson Neargaoder]
Birth Year: abt 1897
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Deerfield, Lake, Illinois
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Central Ave East
Dwelling Number: 354
Family Number: 384
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 15
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 26
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: United States
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: landscaping
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Veteran: Yes
War: WW
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wilson Neargarder 33
Clara Neargarder 28
Russell Neargarder 6
Eldon Neargarder 4
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2015 : 22:56:08
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Probably Wilson, died in Arkansas.
Name: Wilson Neargarder
SSN: 359-10-8719
Last Residence:
72658 Norfork, Baxter, Arkansas, USA
BORN: 17 Oct 1897
Died: 10 Nov 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 195 |
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larsoyane
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Germany
27 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2015 : 23:27:40
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Dear Jackie, lyndal40 and other listers!
Thank you very much for your comments on "my Neargarder problem"!
I agree with you that Wilson Neargarder's wife Myrtle comes very close to "our" Myrtle in age. However, there wasn't much time for Wilson and Myrtle to divorce, and then we have the information that "our" Myrtle was the daughter of Morrise Neargarder and wife Diana Jerstid! Are these names just pure "fantasy"? She was 28 at the time of her marriage to Philip in 1943, and her age at the time of her divorce is given as 31.
Another "enigma" is this middle name Devina. Devine is used as family name, but again I don't understand why her father's name is given as Neargarder!
Thanks again for your assistance in this matter! I will keep my fingers crossed that someone manages to find the answer...!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2015 : 23:35:03
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Here is an instance of wife using the name Myrtle
Myrtle Neargarder in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989
Name: Myrtle Neargarder
Gender: Female
Residence Year: 1943
Street address: 624 N Jackson
Residence Place: Waukegan; North Chicago, Illinois, USA
Spouse: Wilson Neargarder
Publication Title: Waukegan, Illinois, City Directory, 1943 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2015 : 23:41:37
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Well, divorces used to be relatively quickly settled so the date disparity is less alarming to me. The father's name might be a matter of a misplaced ditto--her last name is Neargarder then his last name must be Neargarder. It might also have been an entry in an index rather than the actual record. A visual on the actual marriage and actual divorce record might help matters. So far none of the newspaper sites I use have found any smoking guns.
The Margaret Devine in the 1930 census is also a bit of a problem. The elder brother Edward was born in 1906 in Wisconsin to Michael Edward Devine and Catherine Duneen (according to record) so nothing which clicks with the parents' names. Also Margaret doesn't appear with the family in the 1920 census in Chicago as might be expected. Perhaps she was adopted? |
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AntonH
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larsoyane
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Germany
27 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:05:29
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Dear lyndal40, Jackie and other Listers!
I have used the original marriage license, both the original in the Rock Co., WI courthouse in Janesville, WI as well as the copy kept at the State Vital Bureau of Vital Statistics in Madison, WI, and they both show the same! The original divorce record has also been viewed!
You mention the possibility of an adoption. That is of course an option, but then we have the fact that no Morrise Neargarder or Diana Jerstid can be found anywhere! That Jerstid name is also kind of "unusual"...
I am "stumped"! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:06:01
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This is probably the family of the Jermiah Dimuen and Sarha Butler found by Jackie in the 1930 Census.
Jeremiah Dineen in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Jeremiah Dineen
Age: 5
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1880: Lyndon, Juneau, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: James Dineen
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's name: Catharine Dineen
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: At Home
View image
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dineen 44
Catharine Dineen 30
Mary Dineen 10
Catharine Dineen 8
Sarah Dineen 7
Jeremiah Dineen 5
John Dineen 2 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/03/2015 00:15:51 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:17:44
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This looks like Margaret Devine found by Jackie in the 1940 Census. The birth year is off quite a bit but the names ring true.
Katherine E Devine in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Katherine E Devine
[Katherine E Dwino]
Age in 1910: 4
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1910: Racine Ward 4, Racine, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Michael Devine
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's name: Katherine Devine
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Devine 39
Katherine Devine 37
[39]
Katherine E Devine 4
Edward M Devine 3
Irene C Devine 1
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larsoyane
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Germany
27 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:23:00
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Dear lyndal40 and other Listers!
I forgot to mention; I have years ago personally talked to numerous relatives of Philip Phillips', but noone was able to tell me anything at all about Myrtle! After all, they were married only three years!
About the Devine family, I don't know what to think... I am not convinced these are the people I am looking for...
Thanks again for your efforts!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:28:36
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Probably the birth record of the Edward Devine.
Michel Edward Devine in the Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908
Name: Michel Edward Devine
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1906
Birth Place: Racine, Racine, Wisconsin
Gender: Male
Race: White
Father's name: Michel Edward Devine
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's name: Cathrine Dunneen
Mother's Birth Place: Lyndan, Wisconsin
FHL Film Number: 1305150 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9224 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 00:37:25
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About the Devine family, I don't know what to think... I am not convinced these are the people I am looking for..
Neither am I, but for now it is the only good lead we have. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 01:15:41
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larsoyane
Starting member
Germany
27 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2015 : 01:28:36
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Dear lyndal40, Jackie and other Listers!
Thank you very much for your latest messages!
I never copied the divorce records, and I didn't think of writing a street address, but I am pretty sure Myrtle was a resident of Edgerton, WI, while Philip had moved to Stoughton, WI
At the time of her marriage, Myrtle worked at the Edgerton, WI shoe company!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge, WI (1915)
