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AntonH
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  00:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you broaden the search to all of Febuary 1853 a search produces 529 names. Too many to post here, however if we limit it to last names Lars*, female born in Feb 1853 in Hedmark, the list is.

View Record Name Birth Date Baptism Date Baptism Place Relatives

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Gurine Larsdatter
20 feb 1853 19 jun 1853 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Siri

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Lise Larsdatter
26 feb 1853 24 mar 1853 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Kari

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Olea Larsdotter
13 feb 1853 16 feb 1853 Vang og Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Randi

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Sedsil Larsdatter
27 feb 1853 8 mai 1853 (8 May 1853) Stange, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Elen

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Karen Larsen
20 feb 1853 27 feb 1853 Strom,Hedmark,Norway Lars,
Dorthea

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Olea Larsen
13 feb 1853 15 feb 1853 , Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Rangdie

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Karen Larsdatter
16 jan 1853 27 feb 1853 Vinger, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Eli

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Marthe Larsdotter
18 nov 1853 5 feb 1854 Vang og Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Agnete

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Karoline Larsen
11 des 1853 (11 Dec 1853) 5 feb 1854 , Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Petronelle

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Christine Larsen
30 jan 1853 20 feb 1853 , Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Kirsti

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Elise Larsen
27 des 1853 (27 Dec 1853) 12 feb 1854 , Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Gunnaar

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Gjertru Larsen
6 jan 1853 27 feb 1853 , Kvikne, Hedmark, Norway Lars C.,
Marit

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Marte Larsen
18 nov 1853 5 feb 1854 , Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Agnethe

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Kjerstine Hansen
[Kjerstine Larsson]
27 feb 1853 , Kvikne, Hedmark, Norway Hans,
Mari

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Oline Larsdatter
15 des 1852 (15 Dec 1852) 6 feb 1853 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Karen

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Mathea Larsen
17 des 1852 (17 Dec 1852) 20 feb 1853 , Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Siri

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Christine Larsen
20 feb 1853 , Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Kirsti

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Gjertru Larsen
27 feb 1853 , Kvikne, Hedmark, Norway Lars C.,
Marit

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Mathea Larsen
20 feb 1853 , Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Siri

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Olea Larsen
15 feb 1853 , Furnes, Hedmark, Norway Lars,
Rangdie

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Anne Maria Olsen
[Anne Maria Larsen]
13 feb 1853 , Hof, Hedmark, Norway Ole,
Maren

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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  02:14:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a marriage for a Lars Henrikson in Romedal (of course not to a Pernille!):
Source information: Hedmark county, Romedal, Parish register copy nr. 9 (1846-1866), Marriage records 1854, page 174.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9104&idx_id=9104&uid=ny&idx_side=-171

He was a "player" before his marriage #73:
Source information: Hedmark county, Romedal, Parish register copy nr. 9 (1846-1866), Birth and baptism records 1853, page 52.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9104&idx_id=9104&uid=ny&idx_side=-51

Edited by - jkmarler on 26/04/2015 20:40:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  03:35:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well maybe he had a daughter named Marie, birth year is a little off.

1865 NHDC

See also number 130

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9104&idx_id=9104&uid=ny&idx_side=-112

Edited by - AntonH on 26/04/2015 03:50:21
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/04/2015 :  20:39:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage record clearly shows Mari Anne's place of birth in Hedemarken, Norway. Despite looking at many parish birth / baptisms no Marianne answering the description has yet been found.

Since Marianne's daughters in the 1900 census say their mother was born in Denmark (and granted that their stepmother was actually born in Denmark) maybe Marianne had a connection to Denmark? Here is a somewhat slightly possible long shot territory really from the Danish emigration website:

Navn: Larsen, Mariane
Stilling:Jomfru
Alder:22
Bestemmelsessted:New York
Kontrakt nr.:177300
Forevisningsdato:11/25/1881
Sidste oph.sogn:Aalborg
Sidste oph. amt:Aalborg
Sidste oph.sted:Aalborg
Bestemmelses land:USA
Bestemmelses by:New York City
Bestemmelses stat:New York State
Skibsnavn:Thingvalla
Bemærkninger:ANM: Thingvalla.
IDkode:D8182L0611

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AntonH
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  00:04:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the Ancestry.com version of the record. Her birth year is a little off for the Mariane who was married in New York.

Name: Mariane Larsen
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1881
Birth Date: abt 1859
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Danish
Place of Origin: Denmark
Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Thingvalla
Search Ship Database: Search for the Thingvalla in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  13:29:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Mariane b 24 Feb 1846 father is bachelor Lars Henriksen Dotterudand mother is Petronelle Olsdatter # 44

Source information: Hedmark county, Løten, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1832-1849), Birth and baptism records 1846, page 218-219.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9100&idx_id=9100&uid=ny&idx_side=-113

Mariane Lars* in 1875:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052055052491

Possibly Mariane in 1865 living with her grandmother:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038033004658

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/04/2015 14:05:01
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eibache
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  15:04:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Here is Mariane b 24 Feb 1846 father is bachelor Lars Henriksen Dotterudand mother is Petronelle Olsdatter # 44
- small correction:
Here is Mariane b 24 Feb 1846 father is bachelor Lars Henriksen, Dotterud and mother is Petronelle Olsdatter, Store Torp # 44.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  15:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The confirmation record for Marianne Stabseng (Stafseng - Larsdatter living vith her grandmother in 1865) is #23.
Parents: Petronille Olsdatter and Lars Henriksen.

Einar
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  15:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the marriage of Marianne's mother #7:
Source information: Hedmark county, Løten, Parish register copy nr. 2 (1832-1850), Marriage records 1849, page 467-468.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9097&idx_id=9097&uid=ny&idx_side=-235

potential halfsiblings
Lars Pederson Vestby #33:
Source information: Hedmark county, Løten, Parish register copy nr. 4 (1863-1877), Confirmation records 1867, page 274.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9099&idx_id=9099&uid=ny&idx_side=-208

Andreas Pederson Vestby #44:
Source information: Hedmark county, Løten, Parish register copy nr. 4 (1863-1877), Confirmation records 1870, page 287.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9099&idx_id=9099&uid=ny&idx_side=-221

This family in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038033001165

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/04/2015 19:15:56
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eibache
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  15:52:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Petronelle Olsdatter was born Aug 7 1820, 5th record right page.
Her parents were Ole Andersen and Ane Olsdatter, Stafseng. (The farm Marianne stayed on in 1865)

Einar
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JaneC
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  17:00:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a Lars Henriksen on Dotterud in 1865, with a wife and many children:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/bosted_land/bf01038033005981

The marriage record for Axel and Mari Anne has Mariane age 29 (as I read it) marrying a groom age 23. Since Mariane seems more likely to be in her mid-thirties at the time, would be one reasonable hypothesis that she shaved off some years. Which doesn't explain the emigration record, but oh well....

Edited by - JaneC on 27/04/2015 17:07:02
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  17:26:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Years, mayhaps, be lost in the ocean on the way over....
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JaneC
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  20:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Years, mayhaps, be lost in the ocean on the way over....


Maybe I'll try that....
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  20:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Andersen Stafseng is mentioned in the first listing on the right hand page in the real estate record:

Kildeinformasjon: Protokollnummer: 3.1, Sted: Sør-Hedmark sorenskriveri, Løten tinglag, Oppbevaringssted: SAH
Merknader: Fol. 1-310. Register i protokollen.
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-tl20071031340255.jpg
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MichaelLeeCT
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Posted - 27/04/2015 :  21:04:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing! My father had always suspected that his great-grandfather Axel had had a first wife, and he had heard stories about his cousins who were children of Axel and Mariane, but we had no evidence until I located that marriage record, and now you have helped me solve some of the mystery of who Mariane Larsdatter was. Thank you all for your expertise and your assistance.
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