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jkmarler
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 Posted - 21/08/2015 : 16:12:17
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Well Hakon Emanuel was born in 1864
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Hakon Emanuel Eriksen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Hakon Emanuel Eriksen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 okt 1864 (1 Oct 1864)
Baptism Date: 13 nov 1864
Baptism Place: Gronland Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Erik Hallgesen
Mother: Henrikke Caroline Jensen
Born out of wedlock according to Digitalarkivet. See number 345.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=626&idx_id=626&uid=ny&idx_side=-115
However no connection with the name Weng or any variation of that name.
Sorry if this has been posted before. Here is a Hakon Eriksen b 1864 and listed as foster son. There is an Henrikke age 23 in the household as well:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038027038085
020 04 Even Eriksen 49 Christiania Husfader g Skomager
021 04 Marie Eriksen 50 Moss Husmoder hans Kone g
022 04 Henrikke Eriksen 23 Christiania deres Datter ug
023 04 Mina Eriksen 13 Christiania deres Datter ug
024 04 Elvine Eriksen 7 Christiania deres Datter ug
025 04 Andreas Larsen 47 Kongsvinger Logerende ug Skomager
026 04 Hakon Eriksen 1 Christiania Fostersøn ug
The notes say Grønland parish.
Here is an Haakon Emil Eriksen in 1885:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257047558
Guess his viability would depend on circumstances in which Emanuel can be Emil...What's a bruskjører? Google translates as Brus driver, not a lot of help. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 21/08/2015 16:46:55 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 16:44:53
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When was the 1900-census held in this area of New York?
Since there is no Hakon listed, he might have emigrated after the census was held, but before Jørgine came 31. aug. 1900.
Jackie is referring to the man named Hakau Erekson, which I assumed was a poor rendering of Hakon Eriksen. The US Census for him in New York was taken on 6 June. See earlier page for the rest of the census data
He is about the only Hakon living in New York City in the 1900 Census. There are two other Hakons, one age 11 living with family and one age 26 born in Denmark.also living with his family.
Name: Hakau Erekson
[Nakan Erekson]
Age: 36
Birth Date: Nov 1863
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/08/2015 16:50:21 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 17:22:32
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Since Hakon Erikson said when he arrived in 1900 that he had been in US for 13 years, here is another Hakon leaving in 1887 for New York:
His arrival into New York, Same passenger Carl (Karl) IVersen next to him as in the Digitalarkivet record.
Hacken Eriksen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Hacken Eriksen
Arrival Date: 27 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1865
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Rotterdam
Were they muscians {Musikus?}
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 17:45:56
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| I know it is a big stretch but could the Hakon Weng that we read from the immigration record actually be a misreading of Hakon Emil????? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 18:13:22
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| In Hallinglag lore, there was a young woman who was affianced to a man in America but his family felt she was "beneath" them, even in America, and refused to accept her. She was so overwhelmed that she gave up being a girl and went to work in logging camps as a cook under the name of "Billy Williams" and lived the rest of her life as the character she'd created. After she died her true identity was discovered and her family finally knew what had become of their Ingeborg. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 18:35:08
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| An interesting story. We have to presume we sometimes bump, unawares, into gay or transgender people in genealogy quests. It's hard nowadays to swallow that a person of mainstream gender identity would switch genders due to a romance that didn't work out, easier to believe that story would suffice, in its day. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 18:56:12
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| Well, in this case I think the gentleman's name is known. But being overcome by shame or other emotion is definitely something that does happen and isolating yourself as a protective measure also. Besides, in America, if you fail wherever you are at, you can always remake yourself via a move away, or at least you could in days gone by. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 19:27:50
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| Agreed one answer to the family mystery could be that the daughter chose not to write home - and there could be myriad reasons why she didn't. She might be living but her identity is obscured by a marriage or use of an unexpected name, adopted to shield herself or other reasons. My main point is that it's unknown if the man was a wicked man, and that it seems unlikely, to me, that he lured her for the purpose of prostitution or white slave trade, since the former isn't convenient and the latter, to my knowledge, didn't exist. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 20:24:57
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Just by the numbers 1875 birthyear and 1900 migration year, Gina Danden:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKY3-QQN
Probably the Gina above in the New Jersey 1915 State Census name as Vandem:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9Q-86SD
A Gina Vandem coming to New York in 1939, unfortunately can't judge significance if any since familysearch is having technical problems with their images, again.
Name Gina Vandem
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1939
Event Place New York, New York, United States
Gender Female
Age 63
Birthplace Norway
Ship Name Oslofjord
Birth Year (Estimated) 1876
Birthdate from the 1915 census is July 1875, not quite a match.
Here is her migration record from Norway, so she can be eliminated from consideration:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000521452
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JaneC
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 22:15:33
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| What about the brother Hans, is it known where he ended up in US? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 22:43:25
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Probably him here from a Ancestry.com family tree
Hans Andersen Strand
BIRTH 30 DEC 1871 • Hokksund, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 30 AUG 1952 • Rapidan, Blue Earth, Minnesota, United States
Hans A Strand
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Hans A Strand
Age in 1910: 36
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Rapidan, Blue Earth, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1893
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lena Strand
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Hans A Strand 36
Lena Strand 30
Arthur Strand 4
Ruby Strand 1
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What happened to Anna Jørgine b. 1875?
