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breakfree
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:35:41
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Yes this one 1885 says Fredrickhald an actual place in Norway but all the others say Baahuslan which was in Sweden, I think.
not too far fetched as her brother Soren married a Swede, as did her sister Jakobine (they met in Australia - but had the good sense to get out of there and come to NZ :) - her brother Johannes also married a Swede.
this is why i like Roxette as much as a i like A-HA :) (although im really a rocker and don't like ABBA :) |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:38:43
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Originally posted by Kåarto
She married Shoemaker Ninus Agathon Olsen in Jacob parish, Oslo August 19. 1883.
The birth is rec. as Sept. 4. (error), she was born July 4. 1858 in "Laurvig" Larvik and confirm. in Langestrand April 20. 1873 as rec. in the wedding record.
See couple 45
Father; Sømand - Seaman Anders Iversen (First Chapter right page)
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Ninus Agathon Olsen was born in Brastad in Sweden
Father; Ole Anton Mattiasen.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 13:51:14
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Originally posted by breakfree
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Originally posted by JaneC
Hi all - Richard, that's an excellent description of a basic, necessary methodology - identify a candidate and formulate a hypothesis it is the right person, and focus a search on that candidate to rule him/her in or out. The widow Johanne Iversen you found in Oslo is a worthy candidate. We need to figure out which parish in Oslo she's in, as a starting point for a search for her death in (possibly) Oslo. Maybe same as one of the children...
thanks JaneC - i thought you were going to tell me i was mad as a hatter for my theory :) - i had a look at the Kristiana deaths, but nothing there in that timeframe fits. I may just bite the bullet and go through every parish tomorrow - will go and get a good sleep and prepare myself (with plenty of coffee to flow i think)
You might want to go through the dødfallsprotokol instead. It's a basic miniature probate record usually including anyone who died, not necessarily just those with an estate. It covers deaths chronologically but includes all the parishes. I'll see if there are dates covering Oslo for the period you want and comeback with a link.
This is a link to all the Oslo probate records, the dødfallsprotokol are closer to the bottom of the list:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/search/?forvaltning=&fylke=03&embete=&protokoll=&periode=&navn= |
Edited by - jkmarler on 31/08/2015 13:55:44 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 19:44:12
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Shoemaker Ninus A. OLsen and Anne Kristine with 3 sons and a dau. in Oslo 1910
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Alf Gustav Olsen b. July 9. 1886 married Karoline Mathilde (unknown lastname)
Both buried in Vestre Gravlund, Oslo.
She died Dec. 31.1962, no date for when Alf Gustav died, the grave is deleted.
Last couple link
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 19:53:23
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Shoemaker Ninus A. OLsen and Anne Kristine with 3 sons and a dau. in Oslo 1910
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Oslo 1923.
Karl Bjarne Olsen b. Feb. 27. 1889, "g" married , shoemaker, living in the same place as in 1910 (Vibesgate 12) link
Link will not cooperate
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 31/08/2015 : 20:37:20
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Originally posted by jkmarler
This is a link to all the Oslo probate records, the dødfallsprotokol are closer to the bottom of the list:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/search/?forvaltning=&fylke=03&embete=&protokoll=&periode=&navn=
thank you, i was due to get some sleep in when you posted this, but sure enough i launched into looking (figured Jan 1915 would be a good place to start seeing as those Address Books are meant to be from data gathered the year before) - i fell asleep when i got through March :p - i will coffee up here and then get cracking :)
and thanks also to Kåre for the additional information on the Olsen kids :) |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 02:50:23
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just found this - Adolf was the son of Iver Thorvald Andersen...i thought it might throw up some ideas
as to perhaps where the parents may have been at this time?
1923 Municipal Census for Kristiania (incomplete)
Adolf Andersen
ID: pf01063298036764
Gender: m
Household no .: 00
Date of birth: 10/13/1876
Person no .: 007
Place of birth: Christiania
Marital status: ug
Occupation: Military Officer
Migrated to: 1923-03-04
Address at last census: Brogt.3A
Address moved from: Brogt.3A
Notes: Employer: The fortress |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 04:18:41
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I just found this - was looking for the mother but think i've found Iver Thorvald Andersen instead
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27275/186/
if someone could translate it'd be most appreciated :)
the reference i was actually looking for but couldnt see for looking (was in fact in 1916 - how the hell did i end up in 1919??? LOL) was:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27227/28/?size=full&mode=0
1299 II 16/9 Johanne Iversen, Kore
- unless there is an error in the age, i don't think this is our girl :( |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 06:54:54
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I don't see an age - Johanne Iversen, enke
Enke, meaning widow vs Kone, meaning wife
Is this an index entry, and full probate is in another place? What's the parish? Is the death 16 Sept 1916? Presumably there's a corresponding death record.
I'll leave the translation to someone fluent in Norwegian... |
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 07:03:54
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Originally posted by JaneC
I don't see an age - Johanne Iversen, enke
Enke, meaning widow vs Kone, meaning wife
Is this an index entry, and full probate is in another place? What's the parish? Is the death 16 Sept 1916? Presumably there's a corresponding death record.
I'll leave the translation to someone fluent in Norwegian...
yes it was an index, i didnt notice the index until i had already gone through the whole of 1915's records, couldve saved my eyes a bit of strain LOL - it says she was 72 on the actual record (i should've posted that link :)
here it is here:
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27308/159/
yes its 16 Sept 1916
the area appears to be Ribbunggata 3 Kristiania Oslo, which i did see on google yesterday.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 07:35:26
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510 is the number assigned to Johanne Fredrikke Iverson in book I her date of death is 2 April 1916:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Avd. I, Dødsfallsprotokoll B 8 , 1915-1917, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27273/154/
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breakfree
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 08:11:56
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sadly not our Johanne - but thanks for taking the time to find and post that.
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Originally posted by jkmarler
510 is the number assigned to Johanne Fredrikke Iverson in book I her date of death is 2 April 1916:
Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Avd. I, Dødsfallsprotokoll B 8 , 1915-1917, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27273/154/
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2015 : 08:23:11
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I just found this - was looking for the mother but think i've found Iver Thorvald Andersen instead
http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27275/186/
if someone could translate it'd be most appreciated :)
entered on 18 Sept
___ Lodarbeider (harborworker?) Iver Thorvald Andersen 70 1/2 years old, died 14 Sept 1918 resides at Bragt. 3a; survived by wife Bertine Andersen, 4 adult children, 2 living here?, 1 Denmark, 1 America; reported by sailor John Hjalmar Andersen ____ _____ 2 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 09:08:36
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| I read: Fhv Toldbodarbeider (Former customs house worker) ----- død 14 ds i Brogt. 3a (died 14 this month in Brogaten 3a) ----- Anmeldt av sønnen Josein Hjalmar Andersen, snekker, Seildiksgt.2 (Reported by the son Jostein Hjalmar Andersen, carpenter, Seilduksgaten 2.) |
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