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jreale
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  00:40:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OLFEN / SVENDSEN Family Bible found. Goshen , New York, USA.
Inside the front cover it says:" Audrens(Andrens) Olfen ~1881"
I believe it also says: Pastor T.N. Bruun (Bruin)
The back cover says: Sverre Svendsen, Borghild Svendsen - 1890-1901.
Lilly Svendsen - no date.
It also includes a letter. Many more names, I cannot make out. Pages are highlighted- in pencil- words written in margins.
I'd LOVE to return this to the family. There is also a letter, I cannot read.
Please E-mail me : joannereale@gmail.com

J. Reale

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  00:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When was the Bible published?
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jreale
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  00:59:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Bible is from 1875.

J. Reale
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  01:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the Bible in Norwegian or English?
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  01:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Sverre Svendsen and wife Borghild living in New York State.

Sverre Svendsen
in the New York, State Census, 1925
Name: Sverre Svendsen
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Residence Place: Rome Ward 06, Oneida
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 21
Assembly District: 03
House Number: 410
Line Number: 38
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Sverre Svendsen 41
Borghild Svendsen 38
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jreale
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  02:39:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a Hardcover, Leatherbound Bible. I haven't got a clue what language this is. The script is very ornate -Google translate= either Danish or Norwegian. Inside page reads: Leftamente, Chriftiania. Vaa Det Brittiffe og Udenlandffe Bibelfelfefabs Befoftning, Grendahl & Son. 1875. That's all I have.
If the family is still in N.Y., I am too!

J. Reale
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jreale
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  02:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, you guys are awesome. My Scottish/ Irish roots are not so easy to find. Thanks for your help!

J. Reale
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ibarnello
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  02:50:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The name is Olsen, not Olfen. The way they wrote the letter "s" looks like an "f."


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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  03:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Christiania is the old name for Oslo, Norway.
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  03:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps the front of Bible name is Bible owner, or first owner.

Could it say "Andreas Olsen - 1881"?

Was this person born 1881? or was the Bible purchased/ pesented in 1881?

Seems like a well studied Bible. Used by owner (Andreas???) for confirmation?

In the back, could this be births of three children in a family,
Sverre Svendsen b 1890
Borghild Svendsen b 1901
Lilly Svendsen b --?--

Grøndahl & Søns was a Norwegian publishing firm - could that be the publisher?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%B8ndahl_%26_S%C3%B8n_Forlag

Maybe "Bibelfelfefabs" is Bibelselse... (???)
"Leftamente" could be Testamente (testament) ?

The city Christiania is probably enough anyway to dedeuce the Bible's language is Norwegian.

Edited by - JaneC on 08/10/2015 04:08:17
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  03:38:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There were a couple of ministers in America with the surname Bruun.

Here is one travelling back to US:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000001165317
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  04:19:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Goshen New York is in Orange county along the border with New Jersey and fairly close to New York City.

When do people get Bibles?

I got mine when I was confirmed. The pastor signed it and my name and the date I was confirmed was also inscribed. So think of Andreas Olsen confirmed 1881 means that he would roughly have been born about 1866.

Does the letter have an envelope with a postmark or is the letter dated?

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/10/2015 04:21:34
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  05:58:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Sverre Svendsen and wife Borghild lived in Oneida County in 1925 New York Census. However Oneida is in far upstate New York. But they probaby lived in Brooklyn in the 1930 Census.

Sverre S Svendsen
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Sverre S Svendsen
Birth Year: abt 1884
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Owls Head Court
Block: D
House Number in Cities or Towns: 6818
Dwelling Number: 160
Family Number: 187
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 48.00
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 22
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1904
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Bricklayer
Industry: Buiding
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sverre S Svendsen 46
Borghild Svendsen 43


Oddly enough there is a Bricklayer named Sverre Sigurd Svendsen married to a Borghild living in Minnesota as well. Not yet proven that they are the same man.

Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
in the U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
Name: Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1883
Birth Place: Christiania, Norway
Age: 36
Passport Issue Date: 18 Feb 1920
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes
Residence: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Father Name: Emil Svendsen
Father's Birth Location: Norway

In the WWI Draft Registration his wife is identified as Borghild.
Sverre S Svendsen
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Sverre S Svendsen
City: Minneapolis
County: Hennepin
State: Minnesota
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1883
Race: White

Probably his baptism record
Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Sverre Sigurd Svendsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 des 1883 (25 Dec 1883)
Baptism Date: 27 jan 1884
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father's Age: 1856
Mother's Age: 1856
Father: Emil Svendsen
Mother: Pauline Pedersen

Now is there some connecton to the bible?

Edited by - AntonH on 08/10/2015 05:59:33
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jreale
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  14:08:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all. This is great info.
I bought this in a "Thrift Store" - I just didn't want someones history to disappear. I've been looking for you- for four years. This is NOT my family.
Help me return this to the Family.
It's a gift.
Thank You.



J. Reale
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  14:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Inside page reads: Leftamente, Chriftiania. Vaa Det Brittiffe og Udenlandffe Bibelfelfefabs Befoftning, Grendahl & Son. 1875.

I believe the inside page read:
Testamente, Christiania. Ved Det Brittiske og Udenlandske Bibelfellesskabs Befolkning, Grendahl & Søn. 1875.

Einar
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JaneC
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Posted - 08/10/2015 :  15:42:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
eibache, can you confirm the language is Norwegian not Danish? Can you shed any light on the publication info - does it state the Bible is published for foreign distribution? "Udenlandske"

jreale, if you want to or are able to take the search to the next level, consider scanning the letter and uploading the scan to the free website "tinypics." That website offers a URL that is suitable for forums. When the URL is copied and pasted to this thread, an image of the letter will appear here. When scanning the letter, set to a low resolution setting so that the digital size is appropriate for the web, to keep the letter from appearing overwhelmingly large.

Meanwhile a question was asked about the letter - is it dated, is there an envelope or postmark or address. Any further description of the letter and/or its contents might help.

Edited by - JaneC on 08/10/2015 15:52:38
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