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CheyanneSchmidt
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 Posted - 18/09/2017 : 17:59:49
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Unfortunately I'm not very good at searching in the different Norwegian databases, so I'm hoping some of you that are, can help me out (again). In my research I believe my third great-grandmother was Ellen Stenersdatter Gullickson born in Norway about 1840. She had to have emigrated prior to October of 1865 because she married my third great-grandfather Neils Ellefsen in Minnesota at that time. I don't have any further information on her, and I'd like to find at least her parents and when/how she came to the United States. Any help is appreciated.
Neils Ellefson Birth 15 JUN 1816 • Tanum, Brunlanes, Vestfold, Norway, but since they married in the U.S. I don't know if that will help. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/09/2017 : 21:33:30
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The family seems to have used the name Mastre as well as Ellefsen. If this is her you do have a birth date question is if it is accurate
Ellen Mastre
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Ellen Mastre
Birth Date: 4 May 1837
Death Date: 20 Nov 1912
Cemetery: Concordia Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Walsh County, North Dakota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Elen Stenorsd
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: Elen Stenorsd
Gender: Female
Spouse: Niels Ellevsen Mastre
Child: Henry Maris Mastre
Church Name: St John's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Northfield, Minnesota
And a record for the death of a child where Ellen is referred to as Gullickson.
Ellen Gulickson
in the Washington, Select Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Ellen Gulickson
Gender: Female
Spouse: Nels Mastre
Child: Elias Nels Mastre
Probably the family in 1880 Census. the 1900 Census gives an arrival of 1859 for Ellen. Would the first child not be the son of Ellen?
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Edited by - AntonH on 18/09/2017 22:09:48 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/09/2017 : 22:37:25
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I see that Nils and Elen had a son in 1866 who they named Stever. The name is a little hard to read in the original document so it could also be Stener. Many times in Norwegian families a child is named after one of the grand parents. This one is probably named Andrew in the 1880 Census. I think her name is this record is actually Stenersen not Henerson or in Norway Stenersdatter.
Stever Andreas Ellefson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: Stever Andreas Ellefson
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1866
Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1866
Baptism Place: Olmsted, Minnesota, USA
Father: Nils Ellefson
Mother: Elen Henerson
Church Name: St Olaf Lutheran Church
Church Location: Byron, Minnesota
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CheyanneSchmidt
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Posted - 18/09/2017 : 23:18:18
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| Thank you, I do have all the information from the U.S. censuses and Ellen and Nils offspring, I'm searching for information on Ellen's parents, emigration and birth records from Norway. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/09/2017 : 23:30:23
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Yes good that you know all this information but we searchers do not. With a tough one like this one appears to be we need to build up a data base that helps the searchers find where she was from in Norway. So we are going to have to start by putting up information that is probably going to be familiar to you.
The family is found in Belle Creek, Goodhue, Minnesota in the 1870 Census
Ellen Elifson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Ellen Elifson
Age in 1870: 33
Birth Year: abt 1837
Birthplace: Norway
Dwelling Number: 70
Home in 1870: Belle Creek, Goodhue, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Occupation: Keeping House
It is a long shot but there is a Ellen Anderson born abt 1840 living in Belle Creek, Goodhue, Minnesota in the 1870 Census with her father Stena (prob Stener) Anderson.
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Edited by - AntonH on 18/09/2017 23:44:03 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 00:55:31
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Following up on the long shot for Ellen Anderson in Belle Creek Goodhue.
A Elen Stenersdatter born in Telemark
Elen Stenersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Elen Stenersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 jul 1838
Baptism Date: 29 jul 1838
Baptism Place: Laardal,Telemark,Norway
Father: Stener Aadnesen
Mother: Aslaug Thorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278291
The original baptism record
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Confirmation in 1853
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Stener Aadnesen marrried Aslaug Thorsdatter. Stener birth year is listed as 1807 which is close to that of Stener Andersen of Belle Creek, Goodhue County, Mn.
Stener Aadnesen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Stener Aadnesen
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1807
Marriage Date: 20 des 1830 (20 Dec 1830)
Marriage Place: Laardal,Telemark,Norway
Spouse: Aslaug Thorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278291
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And then married a Guro Thorsdatter in 1853
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And perhaps the family ended up in Goodhue County.
Stener Aadneson
in the Web: Minnesota, Naturalization Index, 1849-1985
Name: Stener Aadneson
Naturalization Year Range: 1843-1958
Residence Place: Goodhue, Minnesota, USA
Next record is from 1861
Steinar Aadneson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: Steinar Aadneson
Gender: Male
Spouse: Guro Tovsdatter
Child: Höje Havus Aadneson
Church Name: Holden Lutheran Church
Church Location: Goodhue County, Minnesota
Stener Aadnesen and wife Guro and 4 or 5 children left Telemark in 1859.
#21-26
I do not see an Elen, but #26 named Guro is age 20 and a half which would fit Elen |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/09/2017 03:26:29 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 05:53:20
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There his still some difficulty matching up the 1860 Census with the emigration record fro 1859. Stener fits well, but Hannah is much older than Guro. Elen from the 1860 record matches with the second Guro in the emigration record. Ben in the 1860 Census would have to be Halvor born Nov 20, 1846, however the baptism record for him shows a different mother named Anne Tarjsdatter. Oluff in the 1860 Census matches with Ole from the emigration record and no Tov is to be seen in the 1860 Census.
Here is the original record for Halvor.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 06:04:49
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The previously mentioned Stever (whose name is actually Stener in the register and the mother's patronymic is Stenersd., just bad reads of the handwriting) faddernes:
Anders Halvors., E. Niels., Leiles(?) Ellefson, Gunh. Nilsd.
The daughter Gunvor born 18 Oct 1867 baptized in same church as Stener faddernes:
Anders Halvors., Ellef Nilsen, Fiches(?) Ellefson, Helena N Nilsd.
The son Henry Olaus had these people as faddernes:
Thor Adneson, Hans Aavoldson, Guro Thorsdatter, Helle Andrea Nielsdatter.
The son Simon had these faddernes:
Lars E Mastre, Ellef N. Mastre, Anne Marie Ingebretsdatter, Helle Andrea Nielsdatter. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 07:16:09
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For the original poster. Do you have Ellen's N.D. death certificate?
This is from the N.D. death index online
MASTRE, ELLEN 11/20/1912 Walsh FEMALE 75 Years 06/00/1837
North Dakota Walsh
There is a place on certificates from that time for parents' names and birth place as well as birthplace of the decedant.
Do you have this record?
Mastre Ellen d.1913
North Dakota Federation of Women's Clubs Pioneer Mother Project Records, Indexes and Biographies [microfilm] : Complete Biographies Series., ca. 1938-1953.
Microfilm CT3260.N56 1989 [Reels 3-5]
Do you have her naturalization records?
Mastre Elen Norway 2nd April 1, 1885 Walsh F-14 031
Mastre Elen E Norway 1st June 29, 1882 Walsh D-1 091
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CheyanneSchmidt
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 15:55:45
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No, I do not have any of these records. Thank you!
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
For the original poster. Do you have Ellen's N.D. death certificate?
This is from the N.D. death index online
MASTRE, ELLEN 11/20/1912 Walsh FEMALE 75 Years 06/00/1837
North Dakota Walsh
There is a place on certificates from that time for parents' names and birth place as well as birthplace of the decedant.
Do you have this record?
Mastre Ellen d.1913
North Dakota Federation of Women's Clubs Pioneer Mother Project Records, Indexes and Biographies [microfilm] : Complete Biographies Series., ca. 1938-1953.
Microfilm CT3260.N56 1989 [Reels 3-5]
Do you have her naturalization records?
Mastre Elen Norway 2nd April 1, 1885 Walsh F-14 031
Mastre Elen E Norway 1st June 29, 1882 Walsh D-1 091
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CheyanneSchmidt
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 15:58:01
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Most of my family from that time period are from Goodhue County, Minnesota, so this does seem to fit!
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
There his still some difficulty matching up the 1860 Census with the emigration record fro 1859. Stener fits well, but Hannah is much older than Guro. Elen from the 1860 record matches with the second Guro in the emigration record. Ben in the 1860 Census would have to be Halvor born Nov 20, 1846, however the baptism record for him shows a different mother named Anne Tarjsdatter. Oluff in the 1860 Census matches with Ole from the emigration record and no Tov is to be seen in the 1860 Census.
Here is the original record for Halvor.
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Needs some more work
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 17:02:56
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Baptism record for Stener Aadnesen.
Steener Aadnesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Steener Aadnesen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 mar 1807
Baptism Place: , Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Father: Aadne Hojesen
Mother: Guro Steenersdr
FHL Film Number: 126954
From Digitalarkivet
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 17:07:31
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On the page prior to Stener's leaving there is #17 Thor Adneson leaving for America with his family:
SAKO, Lårdal kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Parish register (official) no. I 5, 1815-1860, p. 296
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051007020493
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 17:14:34
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One of several records for Thor Aadnesen and Kari Aadnesdatter from Goodhue County .
Thor Aadnesen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: Thor Aadnesen
Gender: Male
Spouse: Kari Aadatter
Child: Tone Aadnesen
Church Name: Holden Lutheran Church
Church Location: Goodhue County, Minnesota
Above record is a Confirmation Record from 1861 for Tone born 14/5/45, baptism 15/6/45 Larudal.
Baptism record for Tone (called Thodne in the record)
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Marriage of the couple
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 17:46:59
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I am coming to the conclusion that the wife of Thor Aadnesen who has the maiden name of Kari Aadnesen is a sister of Stener Aadnesen who is the father of the posters Ellen.. Here is a birth record for Kari that fits with the marriage record for her and Thor and with the same parents as those of Stener.
Kari Aadnesen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kari Aadnesen
[Kari Hoyesen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 mai 1808 (20 May 1808)
Baptism Place: , Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Father: Aadne Hoyesen
Mother: Guro Steenersdr
FHL Film Number: 126954
The 20th of May 1808 begins on this right hand page, but I confess I cannot read the writing of these records.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/09/2017 : 18:10:12
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Steinar Aadneson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: Steinar Aadneson
Gender: Male
Spouse: Guro Tovsdatter
Child: Höje Havus Aadneson
Church Name: Holden Lutheran Church
Church Location: Goodhue County, Minnesota
The faddernes of Hoje are:
Thor Aadneson, Haagen Larsen, Kari Aadnes., Marit P____ |
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Ellen Stenersdatter Gullickson
