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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 22/02/2018 : 04:02:30
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Dina Nelson (Tina Tofte married name) is listed as being born Oct 1869 and arrived 1869 in the 1900 US Census. That would indicate she came with adults and that she was very young. I have seen enough US Census records for the families of Ole Thorsen to doubt that she lived with them much before the 1880 Census.
Mrs Tina Tofte
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/02/2018 16:57:56 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/02/2018 : 19:29:25
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is Ole Thorson in 1870 Census
Ole Forson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole Forson
Age in 1870: 56
Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: Norway
Dwelling Number: 195
Home in 1870: Lisbon, Kendall, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Male Citizen Over 21: Y
Real Estate Value: 7200
Inferred Spouse: Julia Forson
Inferred Children: Nelson Forson
Albert Forson
Carrie Forson
Elizabeth Forson
Ellen E Forson
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Forson 56
Julia Forson 55
Nelson Forson 23
Albert Forson 19
Carrie Forson 17
Elizabeth Forson 16
Ellen E Forson 13
There is a Anniee Johnson in this household age 2, born in Illinois, In the Original record but not included in the transcription .
Family Search does a better job of transcribing, Ole Torson
1870
A possible for Anniee is the Anna Maria b 31 March 1868 and baptized on 17 May 1868 parents are Peder Johnsen and Brita Thorsdatter, faddernes: Thor Thorsen, Lars Larsen, Kari Thorsd., Kari Steffensd., Guro Pedersd found in ELCA baptisms for Lisbon (Illinois) Lutheran. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/02/2018 : 21:50:50
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Children to Torbjørn Tollaksson (1827-), m. 1854 Anne Oline Torsteinsdr Vik (1832-), Nedre Tofte, Fjelberg, Hordaland:
Tollak Johan, 07 Dec 1854
Ingeborg, 26 Dec 1856, died as child
Torstein, 13 Apr 1858
Ingeborg, 11 Mar 1860
Haldor, 14 Oct 1861 Heldor Thorbjornsen Tofte, huband to Thine Boyd
Anna Oline, 27 Aug 1863
Torbjørn Olai, 13 Feb 1867
Tjærand, 24 Mar 1869
Herborg Marie, 15 Aug 1871
Marte Kristine, 19 Jul 1873, d. 1873
Marta Tjærandine, 18 Jan 1877
I wonder what the origin for the HoyKy name is? Haakon seems plausible. I also noticed that Hugne is a common name in Fjelberg.
Census-1900 for Pilot Township Herscher vill., Kankakee, Illinois, has Haskey Boyd (29) [born Jul 1871] as Adopted son by Joseph A Boyd & Sarah Boyd.
Census-1880 for Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois, has Hocke Nelson (8) as "other" to Joseph A Boyd & Sarah Boyd.
The marriage record for HoyKy Boyd shows him as born abt 1875 in Ford County, Ill.
Possibly Haakon Nilsen, born July 1872-1875, Ford, Ill.?
Census-1870 does not show any likely parents named Nelson in Ford, Ill.
Ref:
[lyndal40]
Hocke Nelson Boyd is listed in a tree as born July 15, 1871 Newark, Kendall, Illinois.
Ida Nelson Boyd is listed in a tree as born March 15, 1874 in Herscher, Illinois. Herscher is a village in Kankakee County.
3 possibilities for parents in census-1870, Newark:
Nelse Nelson & Anna, Newark, Kendall, Illinois
Manse Nelson & Sarah, Newark, Kendall, Illinois
Iver Nelson & Sarah, Newark, Kendall, Illinois
Also in Kendall:
Toleff Nelson & Osse, city, Kendall, Illinois
Oliver Nelson & Martha, city, Kendall, Illinois
Lewis Nelson & Estenie, city, Kendall, Illinois |
Edited by - jwiborg on 22/02/2018 22:54:39 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/02/2018 : 23:39:14
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A possibility for Ida Nelson
Name: Ida Nelson
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1873
Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1873
Baptism Place: Lisbon, Illinois, USA
Father: Peder C Nelson
Mother: Signy Nelson
Church Name: Lisbon Lutheran Parish
Church Location: Lisbon, Illinois
Lisbon is in Kendall County
A spelling for Houckey, one witness is Ida Boyd
Joseph Arthur Boyd
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Joseph Arthur Boyd
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1904
Baptism Date: 20 Feb 1904
Baptism Place: Herscher, Illinois, USA
Father: Houckey Boyd
Mother: Nettie Boyd
Church Name: Grand Prairie
Church Location:
Herscher is in Kankakee County |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/02/2018 00:06:58 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 00:22:47
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
A possibility for Ida Nelson
Name: Ida Nelson
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 2 Mar 1873
Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1873
Baptism Place: Lisbon, Illinois, USA
Father: Peder C Nelson
Mother: Signy Nelson
Church Name: Lisbon Lutheran Parish
Church Location: Lisbon, Illinois
Lisbon is in Kendall County
Peter Cornelius Nelson & Signe Danielson. Signe died in 1874....(!)
Ida Barnhardt died in 1944.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 03:15:23
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Some of the families named Nelson from post by Jan Peter
Nelse Nelson and Anna from Newark, Kendall
Found in 1880 Census with large number of children. Also has a Tree
Nels Severt Nelson
BIRTH 06 SEP 1840 • Svelland, Skånevik, Hordaland, Norway
DEATH 15 SEP 1923 • Kendall County, Illinois, USA
Manse Nelson & Sarah, Newark, Kendall, Illinois
Probably Mons Nelson married Siri Sjursdatter in 1864 Etne, Hordaland, bap 17 May 1840 father Nils Mikkelsen and mother Bertha Larsdatter in Stole, Hordaland found in 1880 Censu in Grundy, Illinois with large number of children.
Iver Nelson & Sarah, Newark, Kendall, Illinois
Found in 1880 Census with over 10 children, Has a tree
BIRTH 10 JAN 1831 • Bilden, , Hordaland, Norway
DEATH 6 MAY 1921 • Big Grove Township, Kendall, Illinois
Not looking good, what did we learn, They had big families and everyone in the area originates in Hordaland. |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/02/2018 03:36:13 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 03:59:33
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The second set also from Kendall
Toleff Nelson & Osse, city, Kendall, Illinois
called himself Thomas T Nelson in 1880 Census with wife and child Sarah in Kendall Wife called Olive in 1880, son on his own somewhere
Oliver Nelson & Martha, city, Kendall, Illinois
Living in Lisbon Kendall in 1880, daughter Anna still there new son Peter born in 1871, Also Julia Petersen mother-in-law age 76 living with them. son Sivert working on near by farm.
Lewis Nelson & Estenie, city, Kendall, Illinois
No children in 1870 not found after
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 15:21:37
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From norwayheritage passenger database, here is an 8 month old Dina [Nielsdatter] from Hadeland who is leaving in 1868:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1198&ps=90938
She would be from a distance from Vestlandet and assuming she is related to the 2 adults just before her.
I believe she has been identified below, accounted for in 1880 US census.
Jonette Bertine Nilsdatter Hansvig age 1:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1266&ps=55001
Karine Nilsdatter 3/4 year from Etne:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=1185&ps=56658
She is #8:
SAB, Etne Sokneprestembete, H/Haa: Ministerialbok nr. A 9, 1862-1878, s. 41
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061221620339
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Another possible long shot #56, birthdate does not match US records
SAB, Etne Sokneprestembete, H/Haa: Ministerialbok nr. A 9, 1862-1878, s. 39
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061221620337
But she has a brother named Haaken # 19:
SAB, Etne Sokneprestembete, H/Hab: Klokkerbok nr. A 3, 1863-1873, s. 25
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070503650660
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rkolson
Junior member
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 16:44:51
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| Jackie, if we believe Tina(Tena,Thine,Dina) was a)born in Norway b)born in Etna(Etne)area c)born in 1868-1870 d)immig at abt age 1 e) her birth name was Nelson(Nilsdattr) then your search should have found her. Could you find out if there was any Boyd travel during this time frame? |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 20:06:28
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I wonder if this could be Dina Nielsdatter from Hadeland in census-1880 for Highland, Iowa, Wisconsin?
The christening record shows Dina born 28 Apr 1867 at Egge farm in Gran, Oppland.
Gran Hadeland in Oppland is very far from the Skånevik/Fjelberg/Etne area in Hordaland.
I haven't seen any connection as to why they should have changed their lastname to Hilden, but interesting enough, there is a Hilden farm in Gran, Oppland, just south of Egge.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 22:18:07
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Originally posted by rkolson
Jackie, if we believe Tina(Tena,Thine,Dina) was a)born in Norway b)born in Etna(Etne)area c)born in 1868-1870 d)immig at abt age 1 e) her birth name was Nelson(Nilsdattr) then your search should have found her. Could you find out if there was any Boyd travel during this time frame?
Not necessarily. No immigration list is 100% comprehensive. There is more than one Etne in Norway. There is also Etnedal, perhaps she is from there. And if she left through Stavanger, you are out of luck, list there was destroyed. We often overlook the passenger lists right on this site, its a search engine on the main page. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/02/2018 : 22:48:53
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Dina Rossing nee: Hilden, from Hadeland, parents Nels Pederson Hilden og Martha Juulsdatter Hilden...
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rkolson
Junior member
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 17:25:34
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
I wonder if this could be Dina Nielsdatter from Hadeland in census-1880 for Highland, Iowa, Wisconsin?
The christening record shows Dina born 28 Apr 1867 at Egge farm in Gran, Oppland.
Gran Hadeland in Oppland is very far from the Skånevik/Fjelberg/Etne area in Hordaland.
I haven't seen any connection as to why they should have changed their lastname to Hilden, but interesting enough, there is a Hilden farm in Gran, Oppland, just south of Egge.
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rkolson
Junior member
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 17:28:26
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| I don't think the real Tena/Dina spent any time in Wisconsin, she seemed to be firmly embedded in Illinois |
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rkolson
Junior member
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 17:45:03
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| Ok experts, with this deluge of information can i at least conclude that Tena/Dina was adopted and Joe Boyd and Siri Thorson are NOT my ancestors? Is the Nelson/Nilsen lead with the 5 Nelson children living with Joe and Sarah the best explanation of who Tena was? The Nelson farm was across the street from the Boyd farm. |
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Joe A Boyd
