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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 01/02/2019 :  01:04:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good find!

quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Why do you not think he arrived in New York on Colorado on May 31, 1870. Yes the manifest lists him as German but the manifest also lists the other passengers who left Norway at the same time as Peter Evensen as German as well. So clearly the identification of them as German is incorrect.

It is likely that the passengers at that time took a so called feeder ship to England and there boarded a larger ocean liner to America.

The Colorado carried 1214 passengers on that trip from Liverpool, England.

Here is what I posted back on page 3.

"A Peter Evenson arrived 32, May 1870 on the Colorado. Also on that same ship were the two Foss girls Pauline and Bolette. All were identified as German so that part is likely wrong.

Peter Evenson
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Peter Evenson
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1849
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado

Here is a record for one of the Foss sisters who are listed next to Peder on the emigration record posted above by Jackie.

Name: Pauline Foss
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1852
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado"

Here again is the emigration record of Peder and also the two Foss girls.

Link

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AntonH
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Posted - 01/02/2019 :  01:49:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to beat a dead horse but on that same ship the Colorado arriving May 31, 1870, I can find several more passengers, all labelled German, that are on the same Norwegian emigration page as your Peder Ellensen Marigaardseie.

For example a

Anders Kristensen Kvevli and his wife Guri and four children named Kristen, Nils, Marie, and Lina are all on the ship list of emigrants as Peter Evensen and again all are on the Colorado arriving in New York on May 31, 1870.

Now they are not always easy to find as here is how Anders Kristensen Kvevli is transcribed by Ancestry.com. But the ist of the whole family makes it easier to identify them.
Name: A Korslie
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1831
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado

Apparently Lina is old enough to get her own spelling

Name: Lina Keiolisi
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1852
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 01/02/2019 :  04:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, I understand and I absolutely agree, the job wasn't well done for sure.
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Not to beat a dead horse but on that same ship the Colorado arriving May 31, 1870, I can find several more passengers, all labelled German, that are on the same Norwegian emigration page as your Peder Ellensen Marigaardseie.

For example a

Anders Kristensen Kvevli and his wife Guri and four children named Kristen, Nils, Marie, and Lina are all on the ship list of emigrants as Peter Evensen and again all are on the Colorado arriving in New York on May 31, 1870.

Now they are not always easy to find as here is how Anders Kristensen Kvevli is transcribed by Ancestry.com. But the ist of the whole family makes it easier to identify them.
Name: A Korslie
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1831
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado

Apparently Lina is old enough to get her own spelling

Name: Lina Keiolisi
Arrival Date: 31 May 1870
Birth Date: abt 1852
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado

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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/02/2019 :  02:31:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martha Helgesdatter in 1875 on Hagastuen part of Marigard:
SAKO, Folketelling 1875 for 0613L Norderhov prestegjeld, Norderhov sokn, Haug sokn og Lunder sokn, 1875, s. 1513
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/ft20110209321008
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 05/04/2019 :  00:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good evening Norway Heritage,

I am once back again with pictures, on this picture is Edmund's Simons Mother possibly Mathea Poulson later Mathea "Mattie" Simon and possible a brother maybe Ernie Simon and Edmund Simon "blond hair" and left side on the other picture.



You can also see on the book cover the words Watertown, South Dakota imprinted where Edmund Simon was born and part of our research has lead. Maybe someone has some more information about possible his mother Mathea Poulson or Peter Simon by now, still trying to find exact research or more pictures, however this is the woman I am looking for and this may be Martha Poulson.

Thank you!
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2019 :  02:10:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the six pages already posted you can obtain the following information

Martha Poulsen family tree is as follows

Mathia born April 14, 1861, Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway, Born out of wedlock

Mother Agnete Hansdatter
Father Fredrik Christensen

Fredrik was baptized April 25 in 1793, father was Christian Larsen Helseth and mother was Marte Frederichsdatter. Middle left page

Link

The family on the Helseth farm in the 1801 Census.

1801

Agnette Hansdatter was born Nov 29, 1820 Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway. Agnette was also born out of wedlock.

Mother Marie Pedersdtter
Father Hans Thomason

Some new information for this family is:

Hans Thomsen married Marie Pedersdatter and the couple had two other children

Marie born Oct 2, 1823 and Thornette born Oct 16, 1826.

Hans and Marie were married on June 12, 1823.

#487

The marriage record indicates that Hans Tommosen was born about 1797, so this is likely he with his family in the 1801 Census. His father is Thomes Erichsen and his mother is Marthe Hansdatter. The farm is Aanderud.

1801

Hans was baptized on July 9, 1797, last entry left page

Link

He was confirmed in 1814. The farm they were living on at that time was Stenseng Eier/

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Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2019 02:09:38
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2019 :  17:11:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dylankylesimon

Good evening Norway Heritage,

I am once back again with pictures, on this picture is Edmund's Simons Mother possibly Mathea Poulson later Mathea "Mattie" Simon and possible a brother maybe Ernie Simon and Edmund Simon "blond hair" and left side on the other picture.



You can also see on the book cover the words Watertown, South Dakota imprinted where Edmund Simon was born and part of our research has lead. Maybe someone has some more information about possible his mother Mathea Poulson or Peter Simon by now, still trying to find exact research or more pictures, however this is the woman I am looking for and this may be Martha Poulson.

Thank you!



How were these pictures identified? From your discussion, I think you are drawing the conclusion that each of the photos are of Mattia and her 2 ? boys.

However, I have a little skepticism of the photo on the left as the woman is exhibiting a little bit of "turkey neck" which doesn't really occur during your youth (Mattia would have been in her early 20s for the small children to have been hers) and that looseness in the neck bothers me unless she is a much older person.
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 06/04/2019 :  04:33:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding the pictures, these pictures belong to my Great-Great Grandfather Edmund Simon and on the back my Great-Great Grandmother wrote Mother of Edmund Simon, same like on the other one.
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 29/05/2019 :  18:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


https://ibb.co/Y7QcyCZ

Can someone transcribe me that line?
I would like to document it! Thank you!

Edited by - dylankylesimon on 29/05/2019 18:33:51
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/05/2019 :  22:12:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry but when I make the image large enough to read it is indistinct, not crisp. Notable is that the baptism occured in 1889 yet the year of birth is 1884. Several other notations might contain other interesting details. Which church is this from?
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AntonH
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Posted - 31/05/2019 :  23:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Likely this ELCA Record

Edmund Simmon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Edmund Simmon
Baptism Age: 5
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1884
Baptism Date: 16 Oct 1889
Baptism Place: Peterson, Harmony, Minnesota, USA
Father: Peter E Simmon
Mother: Mathea Poulsen
Church Name: Highland Prairie Lutheran Church
Church Location: Peterson, Minnesota

Had to split the original to get a blown up image.



The fifth box over is for the church. It seems to read 3 faddernes, ? Elstad.

"Elstad is located 7 miles southeast of Lanesboro in the scenic countryside of Fillmore County, Elstad is one of the oldest ELCA congregations in Minnesota."

Next to Peter E Simmon is K. Mathea Poulson or Poulsen

And then the four witnesses, (faddernes)



Witnessens are likely Paul Tessum, Paul P. Tessum, Mrs Lauggaard, Kristine Ramsey

The last set of words are a little harder to decipher.

Maybe "Foreldrene ? ? "



Edited by - AntonH on 31/05/2019 23:35:31
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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/05/2019 :  23:44:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Likely this ELCA Record

Edmund Simmon
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Edmund Simmon
Baptism Age: 5
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1884
Baptism Date: 16 Oct 1889
Baptism Place: Peterson, Harmony, Minnesota, USA
Father: Peter E Simmon
Mother: Mathea Poulsen
Church Name: Highland Prairie Lutheran Church
Church Location: Peterson, Minnesota

Had to split the original to get a blown up image.



The fifth box over is for the church. It seems to read 3 faddernes, ? Elstad. I think it says the baptism occured in the faddernes' house in Elstad

"Elstad is located 7 miles southeast of Lanesboro in the scenic countryside of Fillmore County, Elstad is one of the oldest ELCA congregations in Minnesota."

Next to Peter E Simmon is K. Mathea Poulson or Poulsen

And then the four witnesses, (faddernes)



Witnessens are likely Paul Tessum, Paul P. Tessum, Mrs Lauggaard, Kristine Ramsey "Mrs Langgaard"


The last set of words are a little harder to decipher.

Maybe "Foreldrene ? ? " I think it says the parents are not members in the congregation.






Thanks for the service Anton!

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jkmarler
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Posted - 31/05/2019 :  23:51:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Name Paul Tossim
Event Type Census
Event Date 1880
Event Place Holt, Fillmore, Minnesota, United States
Gender Male
Age 44
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race W
Occupation Painter House
Relationship to Head of Household Self
Relationship to Head of Household Self
Birth Year (Estimated) 1836
Birthplace Norway
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 232
Person Number 0
Volume 1
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ97-SZJ : 26 August 2017), Paul Tossim, 1880; citing enumeration district ED 70, sheet 232B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d), roll 0619; FHL microfilm 1,254,619.

FAG for Paul Tessum:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114664595

A possible for Mrs. Langgaard:
John Langard M 37y Wis
Mary Langard F 30y Minn
Louise Langard F 8y Minn
Ella Langard F 6y Minn
Arthur Langard M 1y Minn
Citing this Record

"Minnesota State Census, 1895," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ85-TMX : 2 April 2016), Mary Langard in household of John Langard, Holt township, Fillmore, Minnesota; citing p. 8, line 33, State Library and Records Service, St.Paul; FHL microfilm 565,771.

A possible for Kristine Ramsey:
https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=fillmore&id=I7443

Edited by - jkmarler on 01/06/2019 16:55:27
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 03/07/2022 :  20:15:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can someone translate this?


Edited by - dylankylesimon on 03/07/2022 20:15:57
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 03/07/2022 :  20:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And this?

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