A possible Marte Helgesdatter b 14 July 1814 Norderhov #15 right page: SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0008: Parish register (official) no. 8, 1814-1833, p. 4-5 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660605
A possible Marte Helgesdatter b 14 July 1814 Norderhov #15 right page: SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0008: Parish register (official) no. 8, 1814-1833, p. 4-5 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660605
Colum #4: ... Helge Her- mandsen og ... Ragnild Svendsdat ter vaa gaarden Mÿre i Houg ...
is Mÿre a farm?
Myre is a farm. Myre can be spelled a number of different ways --it means moor.
Yes there can be two books which contain the same record. This was part of the system of making correct copies. The pastor and the clerk kept two separate books and then they were supposed to get together and correct any deficiencies between the two, which they sometimes did and sometimes didn't.
It appears that you actually want help with column 5.... hmd [abbreviation of husmand] Helge Hermundsen and [his] wife Ragnhild Svendsdatter on the farm Myre in Hougs Annex
Awesome, thank you! I have never actually traced Marte's siblings. I found 9 siblings, but only 3 survived: Mari Helgesd., Svend Helgesen, and Anne Helgesd.
1795 - For entries like this one, is the left side the Birth Date and the right side the Baptism Date?
1827 - Someone claims that Mari Helgesdatter Almeeje is the same Mari as in this marriage with Lars Pedersen. How would I confirm that's the truth? Nordby certainly not Alme?
1827 - Someone claims that Mari Helgesdatter Almeeje is the same Mari as in this marriage with Lars Pedersen. How would I confirm that's the truth? Nordby certainly not Alme?
PH.D method: Pile it Higher and Deeper method. You don't have all bookend information about Mari, her parents, or all the sibs. Even Marthe's marriage is missing, right?
Get the confirmation record of Mari to see if she turns up in Norderhov or elsewhere.
Understand the geography. Jevnaker is not that far from Ringerike, but so are a lot of other places.
See who Mari is fadder for, if any.
Look for utflyttede / innflyttede records both Norderhov and Jevnaker.
1827 - Someone claims that Mari Helgesdatter Almeeje is the same Mari as in this marriage with Lars Pedersen. How would I confirm that's the truth? Nordby certainly not Alme?
PH.D method: Pile it Higher and Deeper method. You don't have all bookend information about Mari, her parents, or all the sibs. Even Marthe's marriage is missing, right?
Get the confirmation record of Mari to see if she turns up in Norderhov or elsewhere.
Understand the geography. Jevnaker is not that far from Ringerike, but so are a lot of other places.
See who Mari is fadder for, if any.
Look for utflyttede / innflyttede records both Norderhov and Jevnaker.
Look for dodsfallsprotokol for her parents.
Thank you for all the tips! I was able to find Svend and Anne's Confirmation
I was also able to DNA-match my granduncle's DNA with 2 of Mari's descendants, so I am pretty much DNA-matched on every side possible.
I might attack my 5th great-granduncle Peder Evensen Øvern next, his christening was on 23 Jun 1776 Øvern in Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway. But it looks like you have your hands full right now right? If you have some more free time and want to help me with Peder, go for it! The handwriting was at times so bad, I couldn't make it out. I also don't understand why they overlapped writing so much in some of these records. Was paper this expensive?
I was also able to DNA-match my granduncle's DNA with 2 of Mari's descendants, so I am pretty much DNA-matched on every side possible.
The preprinted form gives 3 possibles to be entered here: the parents, huusbonden (the person to whom they are bound as a huusman?), foster parents and where they live. The name is huusbonden Simen Fougner.
I was also able to DNA-match my granduncle's DNA with 2 of Mari's descendants, so I am pretty much DNA-matched on every side possible.
The preprinted form gives 3 possibles to be entered here: the parents, huusbonden (the person to whom they are bound as a huusman?), foster parents and where they live. The name is huusbonden Simen Fougner.
Peder (1764) lists a Capitain Tandberg, Lieutenant Nernst? Sounds kind off interesting. Herman Pedersen according to familysearch was born in 1738, but I couldn't find the birth entry, but I could imagine maybe there is a story in a book somewhere?
Can you access? Historien om Viul : et industrisamfunn gjennom 350 år ?
#29 Anne Helgesdatter gets married: Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1837-1847, s. 358 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050315
#29 Anne Helgesdatter gets married: Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1837-1847, s. 358 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050315
Great find Jackie! Thank you! I am good to go on Anne, I found her descendants and will be able to find the rest myself! Since that is much easier than the hard work that you do!
Here is the page from the Viul book on Herman Pedersen and Anne Iwersdatter
Now looking for Herman/Hermann Pedersen/Persen's death entry from 1776 to 1801. Anne was a widow in 1801, so he must have died after giving birth to his son Christopher Hermansen, he was probably located on Wiol/Wiul/Viol/Viul.
#Left side 2nd entry it says Herman, but I don't think it says Persen or Pedersen right? Farm also doesn't look familiar.
Name Anne Iwersdatter Sex Female Residence Place Hval Address Hval Probate Date 9 Feb 1803 Probate Place Norge Event Type Probate Event Place Note Haug, Norderhov Document Number 1804-1808 Entry Number 58a
At the Digitalarkivet's home page, select scanned archives from drop down, There should be 5 divisions and probate is one of the 5. Then put in 1947 community or parish name in search engine.
#29 Anne Helgesdatter gets married: Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1837-1847, s. 358 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050315
Great find Jackie! Thank you! I am good to go on Anne, I found her descendants and will be able to find the rest myself! Since that is much easier than the hard work that you do!
Here is the page from the Viul book on Herman Pedersen and Anne Iwersdatter
Now looking for Herman/Hermann Pedersen/Persen's death entry from 1776 to 1801. Anne was a widow in 1801, so he must have died after giving birth to his son Christopher Hermansen, he was probably located on Wiol/Wiul/Viol/Viul.
#Left side 2nd entry it says Herman, but I don't think it says Persen or Pedersen right? Farm also doesn't look familiar.
It was but you know, you have trained me, so I am getting better at it. I just wish their handwriting was slightly better. I also didn't find another Herman, so this must be him, I guess...
It was but you know, you have trained me, so I am getting better at it. I just wish their handwriting was slightly better. I also didn't find another Herman, so this must be him, I guess...
Starts at the very bottom of the right hand page 58a
Actually, I don't believe that this is your Anne. I think this is her death 15 Dec 1811, right side: Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0006: Ministerialbok nr. 6, 1789-1811, s. 211 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660452
Peter E Simon (1870 Immigration to the US)
Posted - 07/07/2022 : 18:09:55
