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Donna Clarke
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  13:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am looking for information about Martin Berg born March 11, 1816, in Norway (so written in Swedish records). He married Maja/Maria Hägglund in Sweden in 1845. They had several children. Some came to the US. I am helping the descendants of their son (Per) Herman Berg who married and settled in Iowa.
Martin Berg died July 4, 1908. Maria Sept. 19, 1906.

I would really like to find Martin's birth record so as to learn the identity of his parents. Any information about him or suggestions of where to look will be appreciated. Thanks!

Donna Dyhrkopp Clarke

Edited by - Donna Clarke on 05/05/2019 17:48:53

jkmarler
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  14:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are a few with March 1816 birthdates. Didn't find any with 11 March 1816 date but there are others in the database with only baptism dates:

Name Martin Andersen
Gender Male
Birth Date 31 Mar 1816
Christening Date 15 Apr 1816
Christening Place MOSS,OSTFOLD,NORWAY
Father's Name Andreas Andersen
Mother's Name Hellene Mortens Dr
Citing this Record

"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHZ5-WRH : 10 February 2018), Martin Andersen, 31 Mar 1816; citing ; FHL microfilm unknown.

Name Martin Andersen
Gender Male
Birth Date Mar 1816
Christening Date 14 Mar 1816
Christening Place , HOF, VESTFOLD, NORWAY
Father's Name Anders Olsen
Mother's Name Marte Halvorsdr
Citing this Record

"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWGH-JWL : 10 February 2018), Martin Andersen, Mar 1816; citing ; FHL microfilm 127,570.

Name Hans Martin Hansen
Gender Male
Birth Date Mar 1816
Christening Date 12 May 1816
Christening Place , TROMSO, TROMS, NORWAY
Father's Name Hans Jemme Karlsen
Mother's Name Ellen Sophia Hansdr
Citing this Record

"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4SQ-YHL : 10 February 2018), Hans Martin Hansen, Mar 1816; citing ; FHL microfilm 127,178.

Name Martin Hallerius Larsen
Gender Male
Birth Date 18 Mar 1816
Christening Date 02 May 1816
Christening Place Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father's Name Lars Lovestad
Mother's Name ... Andersen
Citing this Record

"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWXN-MVW : 10 February 2018), Martin Hallerius Larsen, 18 Mar 1816; citing ; FHL microfilm 125,841.

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AntonH
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  16:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From a Family Tree on Ancestry.com,

Martin Berg
1816–1908
BIRTH 11 MAR 1816 • Trondheim Norge
DEATH 4 JUL 1908 • Vansbro, Järna, Dalarna, Sverige


Perhaps the birth date comes from this document


Edited by - AntonH on 03/05/2019 16:22:41
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  18:21:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Here are discussion about the same man with different date of birth.
He was found in Grue.
https://forum.rotter.se/index.php?topic=142722.0

His parents had married in Trondheim according to this discussion:
http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?p=626080

Vivi
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/05/2019 :  18:36:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice find Vivi

Martinus Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Martinus Bergersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 feb 1816
Baptism Date: 10 mar 1816
Baptism Place: , , Hedmark, NorwayGrue
Father: Berger Thorersen
Mother: Marthe Estensdr
FHL Film Number: 124285

Original Record number 27

#27

He still lived in Grue for his confirmation. Named Martinus Bergersen Bakken

#33

Probably the confirmation of his father Berger Thorsen born about 1781. Living on Bakken.

Link

According to the Link provided by Vivi the parents married in Trondheim. That may be why the Family Tree lists his birth city as Trondheim. Here is the transcribed Ancestry record for the marriage.

Birger Thoresen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Birger Thoresen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 okt 1808 (25 Oct 1808)
Marriage Place: Nidaros Domkirke, , Sør-Trøndelag, NorwayTrondheim
Spouse: Marta Estensdr
FHL Film Number: 126822
Reference ID: 1770-1819 b.6

The original record lists the groom as Berger Thoersen Berg and the bride as Marthe Estensdatter Dale

See left page 25 Oct

Link


Edited by - AntonH on 04/05/2019 00:39:23
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/05/2019 :  00:42:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A candidate for Berger Thorsen or perhaps Tordsen in the1801 Census. Parents are Tord Bergersen and Ingebor Pedersdatter living on Godtland.

1801

Marriage record for Tord and Ingebor

Tord Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Tord Bergersen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 8 nov 1772
Marriage Place: Brandvold,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Ingebor Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 124284

Original record far right hand column 21 p Trin second record

Link

And the baptism record for son Berger

Berger Toresen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Berger Toresen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1 apr 1781
Baptism Place: Grue,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Tord Bergersen
Mother: Ingeborg Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 124284

Original record third column from the left about the middle of the page

Berger

Edited by - AntonH on 04/05/2019 02:14:30
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/05/2019 :  03:09:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To go further back in time it is useful to also consult the Bygdebok for Grue. However here is some potential ancestors in this family line.

Hee is likely the baptism of Tord (Thor} Bergersen. Records are from Ancestry.com

Thor Bergersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Thor Bergersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 des 1743 (15 Dec 1743)
Baptism Place: Grue,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Berger Thoresen
Mother: Kari Simensdr
FHL Film Number: 124284

Original record is last record in second column from the left

Thor

And the marriage of Berger Thorsen and Kari Simensdatter.

Berger Thoresen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Berger Thoresen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 29 aug 1743
Marriage Place: Brandvold,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Kari Simensdr
FHL Film Number: 124284

Original record second column from the left, 29th Aug Grue

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 04/05/2019 03:23:13
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Donna Clarke
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Posted - 05/05/2019 :  18:12:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much for all this information which supports what I found in the Swedish records. I found his SE incoming record and early HFL which show his birth date as March 10, not 11 like the later records. As we can see, March 10 is his baptism date. It's not uncommon to see the two confused.

If anyone is related to Martin Berg, please let me know. His son Per Herman came to the US and settled in Iowa. I can put you in touch with his great-grandchildren here in the US.

Donna Dyhrkopp Clarke
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/05/2019 :  22:21:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I asked the Research Librarian at the University of North Dakota to take a quick look at the Bygdebok for Grue that covers the area of the farms Bakken and Gotland. Here is his response.

"I found the family at the place Bakken under the main farm of Gotland in Grue. It mentions Martinus as a son of Berger Toreson, but there are no details as to what happened to Martinus."

I always find it useful to use the Bygedok for a Parish to see if further information can be found on an individual. In this case the important bit of info would be that he moved to Sweden. Alas not to be. You can contact Michael Swenson directly if you have any questions about the ancestors of Martinius Berg.

michael.l.swanson@und.edu

Edited by - AntonH on 08/05/2019 22:24:15
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