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mattbutenhoff
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 Posted - 20/11/2019 : 00:43:43
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| So...What became of the rest of the family. In 1868 Christian would have been 14, Christine 20, Marie 12, Emma 5. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 01:44:21
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here are a few of the ELCA baptism record with screen shots of the faddernes.
Klara Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Klara Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1877
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1877
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Johnette Jensen
Church Name: Trefoldighed Lutheran
Church Location: Battle Lake, Minnesota
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The names look clearly to be Jenson but there is this family headed by a Jens Olson which has both a Ludwig and an Otto Johnson living with Jens in Otter Tail County, Minnesota in 1875:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNG-J7Z
Here are the family in 1875:
Jens Olson Male Norway 59 so born about 1816
Maria Olson Female Norway 58 so born about 1817
Ludvik Johnson Male Norway 24 so born about 1851
Christian Johnson Male Norway 21 so born about 1854
Maria Johnson Female Norway 18 so born about 1857
Otto Johnson Male Norway 16 so born about 1859
Anna Johnson Female Norway 11 so born about 1864
Later on there are 2 different Ludwig Jenson in Ottertail County born about 2 years apart. One or neither are from the family.
This is from MOMS marriages of male Jenson/ Jensen in Ottertail county from the 1st record to the end of 1890:
OTTER TAIL D-411 11/26/1884 JENSON, ANDERS CHRISTIANSON, INGEBOR
OTTER TAIL 1-335 07/09/1875 JENSON, ANDERS PETERSEN, JOHANNE MARIE
OTTER TAIL F-327 05/03/1889 JENSON, BERNT THORSON, TONNETTE
OTTER TAIL 1-004 10/18/1869 JENSON, CHRISTIAN MARTINSON, KAREN MARIE
OTTER TAIL E-397 03/19/1887 JENSON, DEDRICK AFSETH, MATHIA O
OTTER TAIL D-303 07/11/1884 JENSON, LARS P MOLLER, MATHILDA
OTTER TAIL 1-005 10/18/1869 JENSON, PETER JENSON, MEARAN CHRISTIAN Request Copy
OTTER TAIL 2-028 01/31/1877 JENSEN, ANDERS ANDERSON, MARIE
OTTER TAIL 1-084 05/18/1872 JENSEN, ANDERS OLESON, MARY
OTTER TAIL 2-096 12/04/1877 JENSEN, CHRISTOFFER HENDRIKSEN, KIRSTINE
OTTER TAIL 2-040 05/18/1877 JENSEN, HANS ANDERSON, JOHANNE CATHRINE
OTTER TAIL 1-098 10/13/1872 JENSEN, JENS NELSON, KAREN K
OTTER TAIL C-016 05/30/1881 JENSEN, JERGEN HANSEN, JOHANNA
OTTER TAIL C-288 05/27/1882 JENSEN, JORGEN HANSSEN, MARION
OTTER TAIL 2-082 01/27/1878 JENSEN, NILS PETER PLUM, EMMA LUCERETIA
OTTER TAIL D-388 11/03/1884 JENSEN, OLE SORENSON, INGEBORG
OTTER TAIL D-388 11/03/1884 JENSEN, OLE SORENSON, INGABORG
OTTER TAIL E-180 05/21/1886 JENSEN, PEDER HANSEN, KAREN
OTTER TAIL 1-358 12/06/1875 JENSEN, PEDER OLSEN, ANNE MARIE
OTTER TAIL D-508 04/29/1885 JENSON, AMUND SLAATTA, KRISTINE S
OTTER TAIL D-411 11/26/1884 JENSON, ANDERS CHRISTIANSON, INGEBOR
Same place, same dates same last name, only females:
OTTER TAIL 2-216 11/29/1878 CLAUSEN, CASPER JENSDATTER, LINA
OTTER TAIL 2-239 03/06/1879 HOLT, BREDE O JENSEN, AGNETE
OTTER TAIL 1-183 08/02/1873 THYGESON, NIELS JENSEN, CHRISTINE
OTTER TAIL F-067 04/26/1888 FINKE, JOHN H JENSEN, HENRIETTA E
OTTER TAIL F-189 11/20/1888 HAUGTVEDT, LARS E JENSEN, INGEBORG
OTTER TAIL G-113 12/29/1890 LARSON, JENS P JENSEN, MARIE
OTTER TAIL 1-085 05/18/1872 OLESON, HANS JENSEN, STANEY
OTTER TAIL 2-088 11/09/1877 PEDERSEN, JORGEN JENSON, ANNE MARIE
OTTER TAIL C-508 12/31/1882 FOGELBERG, CHRISTOPHER JENSON, ELIS
OTTER TAIL 1-012 09/26/1870 NELSON, PETER CHRISTIAN JENSON, KAREN MARIE
OTTER TAIL 1-033 06/02/1871 SEEN, OLE E JENSON, MARY
OTTER TAIL 1-169 06/22/1873 FALK, ERICK JENSON, MARY
OTTER TAIL 1-005 10/18/1869 JENSON, PETER JENSON, MEARAN CHRISTIAN
You could do the same sort of list of Johnson marriages since there is evidence that they began using Johnson instead of Jenson along the way. |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 01:49:36
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[i]Originally posted by lyndal40[/i
Jonette and Martha, two spinsters following their sweethearts to America
Well your Jonette Andreasdatter did come from Noway to Liverpool to New York. But the husbands ie Ole Jensen side of the family went through Canada.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9224 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2019 : 02:23:21
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Not a bad approach is to start with the Tree I linked to on Ancestry.com and see where that leads you. The Tree will give you some names to follow but you need to find sources to insure that the Tree is giving you correct information. The Tree suggests that Ludvig used the name Martin Ludvig Jensen and that he married
Konc Oline (Lina) Holo
1852–1887
BIRTH 18 SEP 1852 • Dean Co, Wis
DEATH 28 OCT 1887 • Battle Lake, Mn
Is a long and sometimes laborious route to find all the people and the records needed to insure that the people are who you think they are. Here are some records for Martin Ludvig Jensen.
Martin Ludvig Jenson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Martin Ludvig Jenson
Birth Date: 1851
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 24 jan 1919
Death Place: Clitherall, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: Jens Olsen
Mother: Ingebor Maria Olsen
Spouse: Olina Jenson
Children: George Jensen
Mary Bertina Anderson
Martin Jenson
Jens Christian Jenson
Oscar Jenson
Mathilda Storstad
His wife used the name Olina
Olina Jenson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Olina Jenson
Birth Date: 18 sep 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 25 okt 1887 (25 Oct 1887)
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: Christen O Holo
Mother: Brita O Holo
Spouse: Martin Ludvig Jenson
Children: George Jensen
Mary Bertina Anderson
Martin Jenson
Jens Christian Jenson
Oscar Jenson
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 02:26:33
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Once you get into Ancestry will open up a lot of records associated with the person. For example for Ludvig.
Here is a confirmation of one of the children of Ludvig and Olina.
Martin Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Martin Jensen
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1880
Birth Place: Clitherall
Confirmation Date: 17 Nov 1895
Father: Ludvig Jensen
Mother: Lina Hole
Church Name: Trefoldighet Lutheran
Church Location: Ottertail County, Minnesota
Here is Ludvig as a widower. His birth year is off by ten years, but the children look right.
Ludvig Jenson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Ludvig Jenson
Age: 39
Birth Date: May 1861
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Clitherall, Otter Tail, Minnesota
Sheet Number: 3
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 37
Family Number: 37
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1868
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 32
Naturalization: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Months Not Employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: F
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ludvig Jenson 39
Maria B Jenson 23
Christian J Jenson 21
Martin Jenson 19
Mathilda Jenson 19
Oscar Jenson 17
George Jenson 14
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 02:41:11
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In the 1865 Census posted by Jackie a few pages back there is a Xistine born about 1849. I do not remember if she was on the ship with her parents but this is likely her in Minnesota. Same parents as Ludvig and she also married a Halo.
Anna Christina Holo
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Anna Christina Holo
Birth Date: 9 maj 1848 (9 May 1848)
Death Date: 12 aug 1928
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Father: Jens Olsen
Mother: Ingebor Maria Olsen
Spouse: Mike C Holo
Children: Ole M Holo
Minnie Bertina Hansen
Clara Allen
Anne Kristine Holo
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Anne Kristine Holo
Age: 32
Birth Date: Abt 1848
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Tordenskjold, Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number: 18
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Mick Holo
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Nor
Occupation: Keeps House
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mick Holo 30
Anne Kristine Holo 32
Minnie Bertina Holo 6
Carl Johan Holo 5
Christian Holo 3
Emma Holo 1
There is a ton of information on both the Ludvig and Christine families on Ancestry.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9224 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2019 : 02:53:47
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Here is what the Tree has to say about Emma
Emma Louise Jensen
1863–1943
BIRTH 21 AUG 1863 • Eidsvold, Norway
DEATH 1943 • Ottertail County, Minn
Married
John J. Franze
1859–1919
BIRTH 03 OCT 1859 • Hedemark, Norway
DEATH JAN 1919 • Clitherall Township, Ottertail Cty
and according to the Tree they had ten children.
John J Franze
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: John J Franze
Birth Date: 3 okt 1858 (3 Oct 1858)
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 19 jan 1919
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Father: Johan J Franze
Mother: Inga Marie Franze
Spouse: Emma Louise Franze
Children: Reuben Vincent Franze
James Edward Franze
Louise Josephine Salness
Philip Benjamin Franze
Otto Joseph Franze
Julia E Teisberg
Ruth Eunice Brunkow
Anna Clarissa Larson
Ida Maria Dalager
Emma Louise Franze
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Emma Louise Franze
Birth Date: 21 aug 1863
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 20 feb 1943
Death Place: Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: Jens Olsen
Mother: Ingebor Maria Olsen
Spouse: John J Franze
Children: Reuben Vincent Franze
James Edward Franze
Louise Josephine Salness
Philip Benjamin Franze
Otto Joseph Franze
Julia E Teisberg
Ruth Eunice Brunkow
Anna Clarissa Larson
Ida Maria Dalager |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/11/2019 02:54:49 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9224 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2019 : 03:13:37
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The Tree indicates that the other children died rather young. This is probably the FAG record for Otto.
Otto Jensen
BIRTH 1859
DEATH 3 Dec 1881 (aged 21–22)
Minnesota, USA
BURIAL
Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Battle Lake, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA
MEMORIAL ID 142704151 · View Source
The one common thread to all of the above is
Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/11/2019 03:48:39 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 03:56:38
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Here is likely where the death dates come from for the Tree for the parents
Ingebor Maria Olsen
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Ingebor Maria Olsen
Birth Date: 1817
Death Date: 12 jun 1885
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Jens Olsen
Children: Emma Louise Franze
Anna Christina Holo
Martin Ludvig Jenson
Ingeborg Marie Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ingeborg Marie Jensen
Death Age: 67
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1817
Birth Place: Norge
Death Date: 12 Jun 1885
Burial Date: 5 Jul 1885
Church Name: Trefoldighet Lutheran
Church Location: Ottertail County, Minnesota
Jens Olsen
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Jens Olsen
Birth Date: 1 okt 1815 (1 Oct 1815)
Death Date: 19 maj 1885 (19 May 1885)
Cemetery: Trefoldighed Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Battle Lake, Otter Tail County (Otter Tail), Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Ingebor Maria Olsen
Children: Emma Louise Franze
Anna Christina Holo
Martin Ludvig Jenson
Jens Olson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Jens Olson
Death Age: 69
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1815
Birth Place: Norge
Death Date: 19 May 1885
Burial Date: 26 May 1885
Church Name: Trefoldighet Lutheran
Church Location: Ottertail County, Minnesota |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/11/2019 04:24:34 |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 20/11/2019 : 19:56:24
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I found a dna match to a relative of INGEBORG MARIE LARSDOTTER, my g-g-grandmother.
I guess that settles it. My people are from Eidsvold.
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mattbutenhoff
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 21/11/2019 : 01:05:31
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Not likley the same, that is her married name
View 1880 United States Federal Census
View blank form
Add alternate information
Report issue
Name: Marthe Iverson
Age: 42
Birth Date: Abt 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number: 87
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Ole Iverson
She is a Martha Jensdatter
Name: Martha Jenson
Gender: Female
Spouse: Ole Iverson
Child: Edward Melvin Iverson
NameMarthe Jensdatter IversonBirth Date9 Nov 1837Death Date3 Aug 1927Death PlaceTraill County, North Dakota, United States of AmericaCemeteryEast Vang CemeteryBurial or Cremation PlaceHamberg, Wells County, North Dakota, United States of AmericaHas Bio?NSpouseOle IversonChildrenEdward Melvin Iverson
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 21/11/2019 : 01:16:54
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| Never mind, Martha didn’t add up. |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 21/11/2019 : 21:28:06
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| How do I locate the Baaten farm in Eidsvold? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/11/2019 : 23:50:35
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Due to a fire, parish records in Eidsvoll are hard to come by. But there are a few for the time frame 1861 to 1868 that contain records for members of your family
Here is the baptism for Emma Louise born August 21, 1863. The farm is vestre Braaten.
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Ole Jensen Notteroy
