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sabingd
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 Posted - 20/12/2020 : 00:37:12
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I have a number of posts regarding my grandfather Hans Hawkinson 1837-1926
Born: 20 OCT 1837 • Skedsmo, Akershus,Norway
Death: 18 AUG 1926 • Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa, USA
Many of you have helped me in the past but I would like to to consider helping me walk through my paternal line from 1612 to 1837. Back in 15/06/2017, Lindal40 suggest I list my ancestors in order with dates. I as that you will consider taking the time to check this list and let me know if I am on the right track.
9th great-grandfather:
Erik Torgersen
Birth1612 • Helgager, Gran, Oppland, Norge
Death 1665 • Gran, Oppland, Norway Erichsen
Spouse; Kari Andersdatter 1616-
Father of; Tor Ericksen
8th great-grandfather:
Tor Ericksen
Birth; 1637 • Hvattum, Brandbu, Oppland, Norway
Death; 10 JAN 1699 • Gran, Oppland, Norway
Spouse Sigid Staffensdatter 1659-1727
Father of; Erik Torsen
7th great-grandfather:
Eric Torsen
Birth; 1665 • Ousdal, Biri, Oppland, Norway
Death; 1724 • Biri, Oppland, Norway
Spouse; Marit Eriksdatter 1677-1709
Father of; Ole Erichsen
6th great-grandfather:
Ole Erichsen
Birth; 1706 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway
Death; 1786 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway
Spouce; Sidsel Pedersdatter 1698-1775
Father of; Erich Olson
5th great-grandfather:
Erich Olson
Birth; 1728 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway
Death; 1 MAY 1783 • Skonord, Biri, Oppland, Norway
Spouse; Anne Jorgensdatter 1730-1794
Father of; Johannes Eriksen
4th great-grandfather:
Johannes Eriksen;
Birth; 1761 Biri, Opland, Norway
Death; APRIL 12, 1809 • Vestfold, Norway
Spouce; Mari (or Kari)Larsen 1765-1828
Father of Even Johnsen
3rd great grandfather:
Even Johnsen;
Birth; 1795 • Gåsøy, Nøtterøy, Vestfold, Norway
Death; 1857 • Nøtterøy, Vestfold, Norway
Spouce; Anne Hansdatter 1800-1865
Father of; Haagin Evenson
2nd great-grandfather:
Haggin Evenson;
Birth; 1800 • Baarli Norway
Death; 1865 • Norway
Spouce; Mean Haagensdatter 1813
Marrage; 07 May 1832 Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway
Father of; Hans Haagenson.
1st great-granfather:
Hans Haagenson-Hawkenson
Birth; 20 OCT 1837 • Skedsmo, Akershus,Norway
Death; 18 AUG 1926 • Sioux City, Woodbury, Iowa, USA
Spouce; Mathia Larsdatter 1860-1924
I would like to thank any and all of you for anything you can do to help me varify this.
Dave |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 16:30:10
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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3351 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2020 : 17:01:03
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You've got an impossible thing listed starting at JUST the 3rd great grandfather. A Hans Evensen (Born 1795) and Anne Hansdtr (b. 1800) can NOT be the parents of a child born about 1800 in Skedsmo, Akershus.
You can see the actual family of Even Jonsen in the 1801 Norwegian census , including their young son, Haagen Evensen.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1801&knr=0231&kenr=001&bnr=0045&lnr=00
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Edited by - Hopkins on 20/12/2020 19:08:29 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:27:35
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quote:
A Hans Evensen (Born 1795) and Anne Hansdtr (b. 1800)
Actually it is Even Johnsen that the OP refers too, but the criticism is the same, Even Johansen must have born about 1756 or so and not 1795. Throwing the rest of the line totally out of whack on dates.
In fact Hopkins has provided the right Even Jonsen born about 1756 and his wife Anna Hansdatter born about 1752 in the 1801 Census.
I suspect that the Tree goes off the rails at Even Jonsen and the line above Even Jonsen is incorrect.
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Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 18:37:34 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:39:55
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Here is some information from Ancestry.com that might help put the line back on the rails.
Here is the 1801 Census for Haagen Evenson. Duplicates that Hopkins linked to but maybe help you follow the trail.
Haagen Evensen
in the 1801 Norway Census
Name: Haagen Evensen
Gender: Mannlig (Male)
Age: 2
Birth Year: abt 1799
Census year: 1801
City: Skedsmo
County: Akershus
County Number: 02
Counting District: Braate
Counting District Number: 0045
Enumeration District Number: 001
Relation to Head: Deres børn
House Number: 02
Household Members Age Relationship
Anna Hansdatter
49 Hans Hustru
Even Jonsen
45 Mand
Anna Evensdatter
15 Deres børn
Johannes Evensen
11 Deres børn
Ole Evensen
9 Deres børn
Marthe Evensdatter
6 Deres børn
Haagen Evensen 2 Deres børn |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:42:33
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Here is the same data but focused on Even Jonsen (Even Johnsen in your tree}. Note his birth year is 1756 and his place of birth is the same as his son and is Skedsmo, Akershus.
Even Jonsen
in the 1801 Norway Census
Name: Even Jonsen
Gender: Mannlig (Male)
Marital Status: gift (Married)
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1756
Census year: 1801
City: Skedsmo
County: Akershus
County Number: 02
Counting District: Braate
Counting District Number: 0045
Enumeration District Number: 001
Relation to Head: Mand (Husband)
House Number: 02
Household Members Age Relationship
Anna Hansdatter
49 Hans Hustru
Even Jonsen 45 Mand
Anna Evensdatter
15 Deres børn
Johannes Evensen
11 Deres børn
Ole Evensen
9 Deres børn
Marthe Evensdatter
6 Deres børn
Haagen Evensen
2 Deres børn |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9216 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2020 : 18:51:23
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This might be the baptism record for your father of Even Johnsen but needs some checking.
Name: Even Jonsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 10 sep 1758
Baptism Place: Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Jon Hansen
FHL Film Number: 123396
Reference ID: 5542 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 19:17:38
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There are no parish records for Gran, Oppland as early as the dates mentioned above between 1612-1699. What is the source of that information?
I have ancestors from Gran so that appearing at the top of the posting immediately made me suspicious. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/12/2020 : 20:35:46
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Here is the marriage record of Even Jonsen and Anna Hansdatter in 1885.
Even Jonsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Even Jonsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 jul 1785
Marriage Place: Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway
Spouse: Anne Hansdr
FHL Film Number: 123396
Reference ID: 1980
Nr. 5 is the original record
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061101050124
The farm name for the groom is Braate, same as in the 1801 Census.
About the only path to finding out the ancestors of Even Jonsen is to consult a Bygdebok such as
SKEDSMO BYGDENS HISTORIE
Copies of this book can be found at various mid-west libraries, such as U of Minnesota and u of North Dakota.
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Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 20:43:33 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9216 Posts |
Posted - 20/12/2020 : 20:54:55
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If you modify the entry for your 3rd great-grandfather, you probably have the beginning of your line relatively correct.
3rd great grandfather:
Even Johnsen;
Birth; about 1756-1758 Skedsmo, Akershus, Norway
Death; 1834 Skedsmo, Akershus Norway
Spouce; Anne Hansdatter
Father of; Haagen Evenson
Anything above that is likely not correct. The parents of Even Johnsen are unknown. |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/12/2020 21:04:52 |
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Hans Haaginson-Hawkinson
