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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  17:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by SummerJackson

My Carl Ludvig Anderson was born 14 Feb 1853 according to my records. I have seen him on the 1865 cencus living at farm Engers which I think is connected to farm Rodtvedt.

Any US records that gives i birthdate as 14 Feb 1853?

2 Canadian census reports show Feb 1853 (he came to America, then went to Canada for almost 15 years, then back to America) American census just gives 1853

summer Jackson

Edited by - SummerJackson on 27/03/2021 17:55:05
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  18:03:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jwiborg

Census-1865


Can you tell me if all 16 of the people listed were of the same house? Also what does Accomodation mean in the family position?

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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  22:51:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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A little odd that Ellen Hansdatter has a father named Torkild?

Thron Andersen Steen and Torkild Andersen Steen might be bestmen and/or brothers of the groom.

Yes, those are both brothers, not sure why they were listed as fathers.

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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  23:27:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by SummerJackson

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Originally posted by jwiborg

Census-1865


Can you tell me if all 16 of the people listed were of the same house? Also what does Accomodation mean in the family position?


It means to lodge, they rent a room or a flat of the house owner.
There are 3 households at this farm, as indicated in 2nd column:

001 Elen M. Hansdatter 01 53 Aker - Husmoder e Gaardbrugerske, Selveier
002 Agathon Andreasen 01 29 Aker - hendes Søn ug Stenbryder
003 Krestian Andreasen 01 27 Aker - hendes Søn ug Stenbryder
004 Anders Andreasen 01 22 Aker - hendes Søn ug hjælper Moderen med Gaardsbruget
005 Karl Andreasen 01 13 Aker - hendes Søn ug -
006 Lovise Andreasdatter 01 31 Aker - hendes Datter ug hjælper Moderen med Husholdningen
007 Karen M. Andreasdatter 01 18 Aker - hendes Datter ug hjælper Moderen med Husholdningen
008 Hans Jakobsen 01 80 Aker - - e har sit Ophold i Huset

009 Nikoline Nadsen 02 36 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr.
010 Karl T. Kreds 02 18 Kristiania - hendes Søn ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr.
011 Ferdinand Kreds 02 16 Kristiania - hendes Søn ug arb. paa Fyrstikfabr.
012 Valborg M. Johannesen 02 6 Kristiania - hendes Datter ug -
013 Lovise Davidsen 02 28 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfab.
014 Andreas Holter 02 17 Kristiania - Logerende ug arb. paa Fyrstikfab.

015 Elen Mikkelsdatter 03 74 Hedemarken - Logerende e -
016 Johannes Mikkelsen 03 62 Aker - hendes Broder ug Dagarbeider
017 Julius A. Svedder 03 4 Kristiania - Pleiebarn ug -
018 Karoline A. Andreasdatter 03 31 Kristiania - Konens Broderdatter e Sypige

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2021 03:10:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  01:59:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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ny US records that gives i birthdate as 14 Feb 1853?


The FAG gives his birth year as Feb 16, 1853. See page one.

This Death Notice gives his parents names. They match this Ancestry.com record and the 1865 Census you posted on page one.

Carl Ludvig Andreasen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Carl Ludvig Andreasen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 feb 1853
Baptism Date: 8 mai 1853 (8 May 1853)
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Andreas Andersen
Mother: Elen Marie Hansdatter
FHL Film Number: 125844
Reference ID: Bk 26 Pg 18


Carl Ludvig Andersen
in the Utah, U.S., Death and Military Death Certificates, 1904-1961
Name: Carl Ludvig Andersen
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 92
Birth Date: abt 1853
Birth Place: Oslo, Norway
Death Date: 11 Sep 1945
Death Place: Salt Lake, Utah, USA
Father: Andres Andersen
Mother: Ellen M Andersen
Spouse: Maren J Christopherson
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  03:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1901 Canadian Census gives Feb 16, 1852 as the birth date.

Carl L Anderson
in the 1901 Census of CanadaName: Carl L Anderson
Gender: Male
Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwagin
Nationality: Norwegian
Marital status: Married
Age: 48
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1898
Religion: Latter Day Saint
Occupation: Farmer
Months at School: 75
Can Read: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Province: The Territories
District: Alberta
District Number: 202
Sub-District: Kimball
Sub-District Number: 1
Family Number: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Carl L Anderson 48
Marian Anderson 51
Alfard Anderson 23
Martin Anderson 21
William Anderson 17
Fredrick Anderson 15
Henery Anderson 9

Links to 1911 Census and a Tree included in Famiysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHRN-XDF

The Tree is quite complete and matches our information.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KWJN-M57

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2021 03:05:18
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  03:16:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Father of Carl Ludvig Andreasen is Andreas Andersen. His parents are Anders Thronsen and Maria Thorkelsdatter.

Here in the 1801 Census on Steen.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058216003577

Mother of Carl Ludvig Andreasen is Elen Maria Hansdatter.

Here in the 1801 Census is her father Hans Jacobsen on Bredvedt

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058216003634

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2021 03:35:35
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  03:25:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Andreas Andersen and Elen Maria Hansdatter in 1834.

Nr. 82 second entry under that number

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061110020162
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  03:42:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the marriage of Hans Jacobsen and Anne Christensdatter or Christophersdatter.

Hans Jacobsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Hans Jacobsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 des 1811 (28 Dec 1811)
Marriage Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Spouse: Anne Christophersdatter
FHL Film Number: 125840
Reference ID: b 15 p 209
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  04:43:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lyndal40

The 1901 Canadian Census gives Feb 16, 1852 as the birth date.

Carl L Anderson
in the 1901 Census of CanadaName: Carl L Anderson
Gender: Male
Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwagin
Nationality: Norwegian
Marital status: Married
Age: 48
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1852
Birth Place: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1898
Religion: Latter Day Saint
Occupation: Farmer
Months at School: 75
Can Read: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Province: The Territories
District: Alberta
District Number: 202
Sub-District: Kimball
Sub-District Number: 1
Family Number: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Carl L Anderson 48
Marian Anderson 51
Alfard Anderson 23
Martin Anderson 21
William Anderson 17
Fredrick Anderson 15
Henery Anderson 9

Links to 1911 Census and a Tree included in Famiysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHRN-XDF

The Tree is quite complete and matches our information.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KWJN-M57


Yes, it looks like the date is wrong but that is definietly him. Family Search has a lot of info, I am just trying to verify it. I had asked on another genealogy group about Anders Thronson. They said they could not find his birth and did not think Thron Arneson was the correct father. I just want to make sure the information is correct.

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SummerJackson
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  04:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lyndal40

Marriage of Andreas Andersen and Elen Maria Hansdatter in 1834.

Nr. 82 second entry under that number

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061110020162

Thank you very much! Is there any way you can tell me what it says, like occupations and such? I think I can make out Engers Rodtvedt. Is that the farm they were living on?

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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/03/2021 :  06:36:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
His occupation reads Kommandersergeant, ie. First Sergeant/Master Sergeant.
She is just named Pige, ie. girl.
Enger under Bredtvedt is the farm where the bride is coming from.

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/03/2021 18:52:27
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