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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 17/09/2022 : 16:50:01
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| One thing that strikes me is that while there are several Ole Olsen Moe's in and around Douglas County, I have only found one Sidsel (or various spellings of Sidsel). |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
820 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2022 : 21:40:51
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| Found at an Ancestry family site: Link |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9225 Posts |
Posted - 18/09/2022 : 02:01:42
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| It might be useful if the OP would post some details about his grandmother. Census data etc. I think the OP needs to trace back from the grandmother. Might determine if the Ole and Sidsel Moe found in the various census records posted on page one are his ancestors. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 18/09/2022 : 04:30:43
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Originally posted by AntonH
FAG record for the Ole Olsen Moe from the Geni.com tree. Middle initial is J and children do not match the Geni tree so something is not quite right here?
Ole J. Moe
in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Ole J. Moe
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1818
Death Date: 7 Feb 1906
Cemetery: West Moe Lutheran Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Douglas County, Minnesota, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse:
Sedsel Moe
Children:
Alfred Moe
Ida Moe
Sisilia Moe
Sisile Moe
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/119890678/ole-j.-moe?_gl=1*1ihvq5l*_ga*MTc2NDI5NjQ5My4xNjYxNjE0MzM1*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*MTY2MzM0MzE4NC40Mi4xLjE2NjMzNDMyNTAuMC4wLjA.
One of the children Sisilia born and died 1879 listed in the FAG records as a child of Ole 1818 cannot be a child of Ole and Sedsel Moe. I think the J middle initial is a misread of the actual stone inscription which says O og J Moe and then transferred to Ole Moe 1818. His actual stone does not contain the J. .So several strange things underway here. |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
820 Posts |
Posted - 18/09/2022 : 11:53:48
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I have found a "Moe family history", written by Robert C. Moe in 1984, probably the same Robert Clarence Moe who have entered a lot of this material on Geni. In the foreword he thanks Edith Moe (apparently his grandmother) for her help with the booklet. She was still alive in 1984, and had been the wife of Sidsel and Ole's grandson Oscar Moe. Robert Clarence Moe was active at Geni as late as 2014.
Copies of the booklet can be found at Ancestry.com; Part I on the Bugge/Johnson Family Tree and Part II on the Stendal Family Tree.
Ancestry requires paid membership, and I am not sure if these links are open for all. If any of you can't access it, send me a PM.
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Edited by - ToreL on 19/09/2022 15:55:30 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9225 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2022 : 19:55:51
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So looking at the Ancestry Tree of Stendal seems to shed some light on the family or part of the family found in the FAG records.
The Ole J Moe is actually Ole O Moe born 1818 in Norway but the children listed belong to his son Ole O Moe born in 1854 in Norway.
Ole O Moe 1818 was married to Sidsel and they had the children
Kari Carrie Olsdatter Moe
1846–1918
Olena Olsdatter Moe
1848–1851
Kari "Karen" Olsdatter Moe
1850–1931
Ole Olsen Moe Jr
1854–1936
OLINA OLSDATTER MOE
1861–1861
Ole O Moe 1854 was married to Ingrid Anderson Hukke and was born in 1858 Grant, Minnesota
Children were
Sisilia Moe
1876–1877
Oscar Moe
1879–1954
Sisile Moe
1879–1879
Alfred Moe
1880–1882
IDA MOE
1882–1890
Alfred C Moe
1890–1970
Sander Rudolf Moe
1892–1958
MABEL MOE
1896–1898 |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/09/2022 19:57:00 |
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rickintokyo
Starting member
Japan
9 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2022 : 01:57:01
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| Yes, it was Olena who died before the family left for America. According to my family history her birthdate was Feb. 3, 1848. As a post script, I've decided that there is enough supporting evidence and similarities to assume that Ole Olsen Moe, Sr., for whom I've also obtained a photograph, is probably correct and that my family record is mistaken. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9225 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2022 : 04:31:11
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As a post script, I've decided that there is enough supporting evidence and similarities to assume that Ole Olsen Moe, Sr., for whom I've also obtained a photograph, is probably correct and that my family record is mistaken
I would agree with your conclusion. |
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rickintokyo
Starting member
Japan
9 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2022 : 07:53:23
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My paternal grandmother was Walborg Caroline (Gunerius) Moe (1892 - 1984), daughter of Thor Marcus Gunerius (1863 - 1948) and Mathilda Carolina (Carlson) Gunerius (1868 - 1924). My maternal grandmother was Mary Darlene (Jones) Haugse (1901 - 1992), daughter of Eugene Francis Jones (1879 - 1966) and Mary Belle (Smith) Jones (1880 -1956) and was married to Martin Knute Haugse (1894 - 1975).
The information about my family AntonH posted is exactly the same as that which I have put into my family tree. Once again, thanks for that confirmation. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9225 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2022 : 18:57:13
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Thank for the new information on your family. I think the family tree is fairly clear.
From the above list of family members of Ole Olsen Moe 1818 you descend from Ole Olsen Moe Jr. 1854 through Sander Rudolf Moe 1892.
Sander Rudolf Mae
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Sander Rudolf Mae
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1892
Baptism Date: 6 Mar 1892
Baptism Place: Grant, Minnesota, USA
Father:
Ole Olson Mae
Mother:
Ingeri Huke
Church Name: Immanuel Lutheran
Church Location: Barrett, Minnesota
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/102527:60722 |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/09/2022 19:04:50 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9225 Posts |
Posted - 21/09/2022 : 19:02:23
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Sander Moe married your paternal grandmother Walborg Caroline (Gunerius) Moe (1892 - 1984), in 1915,
Walborg Gunerius
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Walborg Gunerius
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Place: Minnesota, USA
Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1915
Marriage Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father:
Theo Gunerius
Spouse:
Sander Moe
Church Name: First English Lutheran
Church Location: Fergus Falls, Minnesota
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/9968502:60722 |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/09/2022 19:03:26 |
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rickintokyo
Starting member
Japan
9 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2022 : 12:58:10
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AntonH, your information is accurate! My grandfather's older brother Alfred lived in the same town so I knew him quite well, too. I never met Oscar, the oldest of the brothers, as he lived in California. As a child my family would go back to South Dakota to visit my grandparents there and sometimes we'd also go up to Canada and Fergus Falls to see my grandmother Walborg's youngest brother Carl who lived there.
Clara Burkee (1876 - 1978), a cousin of my grandfather, visited Norway and went to "MOELY" where they found MOGAARD where all the Moe children where born. The Gaard had changed owners several times since Ole Olsen left and none of them knew anything about the Moes. However, the name "Nils Moe" was carved in the dinner bell that still remained. He had died at an early age in Norway. Clara also visited Ringsaker Church where all the Moes were baptized and confirmed. Quoting from my grandmother's record: "It was a wooden building very well preserved and dating back to 1120 A.D. The interior had well made pews and altar. There were several large fine religious paintings. The large “Alters Travele” had been brought from Belgium in 1400 for 500 glyden or 700 kroner (about $100 today). Most churches in Europe had at one time been Catholic. The “Alters Travle” had been carved in oak and gilded by monks. It has never had to be regilded. It is a work of fine art with 127 beautifully well-proportioned figures. The pulpit and baptismal font was obtained from Gudbrunsdalen in 1735. They too are carved in oak, but in a leaf pattern. They are gilded so well that they retain a bright gold newness." |
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ToreL
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Norway
820 Posts |
Posted - 22/09/2022 : 15:57:09
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| My grandmother was also baptised in Ringsaker church. It is a beautiful, old building, but it is not wooden. |
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rickintokyo
Starting member
Japan
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Posted - 22/09/2022 : 17:39:50
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| Those are beautiful photos and judging from the old one, it must have been built of stone when my relative visited in 1951 and she probably mistook it for being built of wood. I always wanted to visit Norway to see those places my family came from, but I ended up staying in Japan and the opportunity never arose. I'm glad I found this site because it is the next best thing to being able to visit Norway. Thanks for sharing! |
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