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SofieJaegtvik
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ToreL
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 Posted - 21/09/2023 : 20:49:04
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| Your first link is to the baptism of his son, not his own baptism. This (#50) looks like the right record. |
Edited by - ToreL on 21/09/2023 20:58:09 |
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SofieJaegtvik
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Posted - 21/09/2023 : 21:09:06
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| apologies! I got my list of links muddled |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/09/2023 : 00:17:20
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Okay, you can narrow your search for Martinus to various possible record sources. The 1900 US Federal census would be a good one, since each birth is recorded as to month and year and includes year of arrival for those who are immigrants.
Have you looked for his parents' dodfallsprotokol? And what became of his siblings, are there obituaries published on them that mention survivors by name?
So his birth date is 20 Feb 1853 or 1854 and he came to US in 1886? |
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ToreL
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Posted - 22/09/2023 : 10:06:49
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Leaving the parish April 14 1886.
The closest match I can find in the Trondheim Emigrant protocols is this, of 33-year old Martin Johns. from Bindalen, leaving for Canada in 1887. Bindalen is a bit south of Alstahaug in Nordland. |
Edited by - ToreL on 22/09/2023 10:45:25 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/09/2023 : 21:41:45
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Here is a little more information on the Martin found by Tore. Seems to be leaving with a large grou. Shows him traveling to Emerson Manitoba. Emerson is at the border of Manitoba and Minnesota and North Dakota. Might look in all three places
Martin Johnsen
in the Norway, Emigration Records, 1867-1960
Name Martin Johnsen
Gender Mannlig (Male)
Marital Status Ugift (Single)
Emigration Age 33
Birth Date abt 1854
Last Known Residence Place Dindolm
Emigration Date 8. jun 1887 (8 Jun 1887)
Emigration Place Trondheim, Norge
Emigration Destination Emerson, Manitoba
Emigration Ship "Juno"
Household Members (Name)
Martin Johnsen
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/769203:61757?_phsrc=eQK5&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=martin&gsln=joh*&ml_rpos=1&queryId=3352aab80c23cdd2e6a4fc106ecb4f7c]
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/09/2023 : 03:32:30
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It is sometimes difficult to find the emigrates you are seeking. But it can be useful to find where other passengers that leave at the same time or on the same ship end up at. Below Martin Johnson is the family of Paul Petersen Hilstad.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000000091624
The emigration record says that husband and father Paul is going to Chicago Illinois and the wife and daughter are going to Sacred Heart Minnesota. They did not go to either of those two places. They are found in the 1900 US Census in Kittson County, Minnesota. Kittson County is in Northwestern Minnesota and next to North Dakota and just below Emerson Manitoba. His name is Paul P Storm in Minnesota.
I assume that the mother is died as I can only find father Paul P Strom and daughter Astrid in Kitson County in the 1900 Census.
Paul P Strom
Census • United States Census, 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9S5-8M8
Astrid Strom
Census • United States Census, 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9S5-HV1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kittson_County,_Minnesota
I assume that the mother dies shortly after arrival as I can only find father Paul and daughter Astrid in the 1900 US Census
So we have not found your Martin Johnson yet but I would encourage you to search in Minnesota or North Dakota or further west as emigrants and Americans tend to move west when they moved.
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ToreL
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Posted - 25/09/2023 : 12:31:01
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Have you looked for his parents' dodfallsprotokol?
It looks like his father died on April 6, 1894. This according to the ministerial book. (Males, #34) I havent been able to locate a corresponding record in the dødsfallsprotokoll.
Edit: Seems I found this out the hard way. There is online info about the family on both Geni and Familysearch. |
Edited by - ToreL on 26/09/2023 14:24:16 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 27/09/2023 : 12:21:35
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Originally posted by AntonH
Here is a link to the original document
https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/Screenshot20230924at.png
I am currently without access to Ancestry, but I assume the above is the arrival document in Quebec. In any event, it says that five consecutely listed people were all headed for Emerson. The last is Martin Johnsen, and the others all seem to come from Bindal:
Peter Pedersen and wife Nicoline, listed first, could be this couple, married in Bindal.
The enkemand Nils Hansen, listed next, is probably identical to the bride's father in the marriage record.
Finally, Olava Olsdtr, listed last, matches the grooms's mother in the piece on Lysfjord in Bindal bygdebok.
For those without access to nb.no, here is the relevant paragraph. Note that two siblings of Peter had emigrated in the previous years. In particular, his older brother Sivert left in 1886. According to the 1875 census, Sivert was married to Hanna Nilsdatter, with children Nils and Peder, who can all be found in the Trondheim emigrant protocols for 1886, going to Kennedy, Minnesota. Maybe that was where his brother Peter and mom Olava were heading the following year?
The whole family is on Geni, alas without any transatlantic info. However, Peter and Sivert's sister Olea Bergitte, who emigrated already in 1883, had a son Tinius Adolf, born 1877, who is buried in East Emmaus Cemetery, Lake Bronson, Kittson County, Minnesota, less than 60kms from Emerson Manitoba and less than 20kms from Kennedy, Minnesota, where Sivert's brother Peter was heading in 1886. At the 1895 census, Olea was living with husband and three sons in Jupiter Township, where the cemetary is located. All the three sons of Olea listed in the 1895 census, are buried in this same cemetry as Tinius, and Olea herself was still living in Jupiter Township at the time of her death in 1926. At the 1895 census, the family had been living in the same "enumeration district" for 12 years, i.e. since the year they arrived in America.
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Now, extending the search in the 1895 census of Kittson County, Minnesota (in fact just moving to the preceding image) we find Peter, Nicoline and Olava (bottom) who were listed together with Martin Johnsen as travelling to Emerson in 1887. The ages of Peter and Lina are both exactly ten years off, but there can be no doubt about the identity. The surname Oin matches their Norwegian domicile Øyen.
And then Sivert and Hanna with son Peder (plus daughter-in-law and grandson) in 1900, living in the same township(s) as above, and using the surname Oien. FAG |
Edited by - ToreL on 29/09/2023 17:50:56 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/09/2023 : 17:17:39
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Not finding an appropriate Martin Johnson, I decided to look for Martin ______ in 1900 census. Nothing promising so far:
Martin with any last name born Norway Feb 1853, Feb 1854, Feb 1855 in United States Federal census 1900:
Martin Anderson b Feb 1854 came to US in 1879, is married lives Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVF-S97
Martin Hanson b. Feb 1854 is married lives Sargent twp, Mower county, Minnesota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93S-YPS
Martin Mattson b Feb 1854, married, came to US in 1875 lives Saint Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93J-YK5
Martin Matson b Feb 1854 came to US 1888 married works as glazier lives Black River Falls, Jackson, Wisconsin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVS-V24
Martin Watrude b Feb 1853 came to US 1868 married lives in Moscow, Iowa, Wisconsin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVS-CR8
Martin Darseth b Feb 1853, came to US 1892 married lives in Ramsey county, North Dakota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VL-9XH
Martin Nelson b Feb 1855, came to US 1863 married lives in Nunda, Lake, South Dakota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMR4-JMG
Martin Nellson b Feb 1855, came to US 1884, married lives Greenfield, Towner, North Dakota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V5-M14
Martin J Bakke b Feb 1855, came to US 1880 married lives in Spring Brook, Kittson, Minnesota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9S5-8SF
Martin Knudson b Feb 1855, came to US 1885, single, lives in Thorn Creek, Latah, Idaho
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM5R-DR6
Martin B Olson b. Feb 1855, came to US 1870, married lives in Chicago, Cook, Illinois
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS3K-PR8
Martin Olson b.unk 1855, came to US 1875, single living with sister and her husband, Chicago, Cook, Illinois
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS3R-L5L
Martin Pederson b.Feb 1853, came to US 1855, married lives in Blom, Deuel, South Dakota:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMR3-GHX
Martin P Bakke, b Feb 1855, came to US in 1883, married lives in Garfield Twp, Traill, North Dakota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9V5-V7X
Martin Hanson b Feb 1855, came to US in 1882, married, lives in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9S2-MWY
Martin Schonburg b Feb 1855, came to US 1890, married lives Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVT-VV3
Morten Thompson b. Feb 1855, came to US 1879, married, lives in Mitchell, Alcona, Michigan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M918-PL3
Martin Fosnes b Feb 1853 came to US in 1887, married lives in Sparta Twp, Montevideo, Chippewa, Minnesota According to attached family tree this Martin has a 20 Feb 1853 birthdate but in Sogn and Fjordane
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9S9-7Z1
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/09/2023 : 11:44:42
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Originally posted by ToreL
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Have you looked for his parents' dodfallsprotokol?
It looks like his father died on April 6, 1894. This according to the ministerial book. (Males, #34) I havent been able to locate a corresponding record in the dødsfallsprotokoll.
Edit: Seems I found this out the hard way. There is online info about the family on both Geni and Familysearch.
Apparently the sheriff had to catch up from 1894 in 1895 #4:
Alstahaug og Leirfjord lensmannskontor, SAT/A-5675/1/02/L0001: 2.01.01 - Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1889-1907
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10101309115019
And for his mother #4
Alstahaug og Leirfjord lensmannskontor, SAT/A-5675/1/02/L0001: 2.01.01 - Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1889-1907
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10101309115022
Unfortunately no list of survivors in either.... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 30/09/2023 12:10:58 |
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