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NancyC
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Norway
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 Posted - 01/04/2016 : 21:53:47
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| I am curious about your name, Halseth. Are you by any chance related to Eli Andersdotter Stokkset and Christian Larsen Halset(h) from Furnes? They immigrated to Iowa in 1862. Eli was the sister of my great-grandfather. |
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THalseth
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2016 : 01:28:12
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Hi,
I don't know if this should be a new topic. Anyway, no, I don't think my family is related to any of the Halseths. My great grandfather John Martin Halseth was actually Johan Martin Johansen. When he got to Saint John, New Brunswick, he changed his name to Johan Martin Halseth.
FYI, I mention him in another topic on this website - under SS Lake Simcoe April 1903.
He was born on 9 Aug 1880 to Edvard and Pauline (Martinsdatter) Johansen in Økernbråten, Østre Aker, Akershus, Norway. He was christened as Johan Martin Edvardsen, but the family kept the surname Johansen.
According to the 1900 Norwegian census, Edvard and Pauline lived on Halseth farm, which I think was within the large Hasle farm. I don't know anything about the farm history - why there would be a Halseth farm within the Hasle farm or if it had been there long time or not. I may be wrong about this.
I guess in memory of his family and his life there, my great grandfather took on the farm name after he left Norway in 1903. If it wasn't for that, my surname would probably have been Johansen or Johnson.
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NancyC
Medium member
Norway
198 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2016 : 10:10:16
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| We just spoke with a knowledgeable person in Sand who knows local history well. He said his dad talked about Henrik Underbakke as Henrik the Painter. My husband, who is from Sand, said this jolted his memory as well, and he had also heard of Henrik the Painter when he was a child. There was a fairly elaborate system of nicknames in local communities like Sand, nicknames originating in a trade, like Henrik the Painter, or a twist on the patronymic, for example "Pådla Marta" (Paul's Marta), or a twist on a farm name that wasn't used as a surname, for example Endre i Åsen for Endre Veka who lived at Åsen. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 02/04/2016 : 22:23:23
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Your g .g. grandparents on Halseth 1900.
Edvard was from Ullensaker and Pauline was from Vestre Toten
Your g. grandfather lived on another place, not sure, but I believe this is him, working as paper boy in Oslo 1900
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Edited by - Kåarto on 02/04/2016 22:25:13 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2016 : 22:57:58
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| Master painter Ola Underbakke started a paintshop in Sand in 1880. When he died in 1922, his son Henrik took over the firm. The firm did all kind of paint jobs, both outdoor and indoor, plus everything in decorating. |
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THalseth
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 01:23:00
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Thanks.
I just went through the baptism records for Østre Aker to double check if there was another Johan Johansen. I didn't see another one. So, it's very likely it is him.
However, I find it strange that he would be listed only by his first name on this census record when there are several people with two given names. What exactly did he do as a paper boy? It looks like it was in a hospital.
JWiborg found this information (under topic S.S. Lake Simcoe April 1903):
"A list from 1900, containing male residents eligible by the Constitution for voting from Vestre Aker parish, shows a factoryworker Johan Martin Johansen, residing at "Edv. Pedersens house" in Nydalen, Vestre Aker
Census-1900, taken December same year, does not list him residing there."
Would it be unusual or not that only his first name was recorded in the census when there are records of him being Johan Martin?
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 10:42:19
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Originally posted by THalseth
Would it be unusual or not that only his first name was recorded inthe census when there are records of him being Johan Martin?
There were no rules for naming. It was not unusual and much depending on what was used in daily life. I've seen many variations on what is written in the church books.
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olavveka
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 16:28:36
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Concerning Halseth: It turns out that there is a tenant farm called Halset in Maridalen in Oslo or the old county Aker in the 1800's see: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/31ec01f79cb28def8c8109507da25c80.nbdigital?lang=no#7
I would think this is the origin of the surname Halseth. At that time tenants or crofters frequently invented a name for their small farms. The element SET in this name was generally not used after 1000 AD, there is only one farm in Eastern Norway by the name Halset from viking times, which is located in the county of Ringsaker. There is no Hasle farm in the vicinity of Halset. |
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THalseth
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2016 : 19:44:13
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Thanks for reminding me. I had learned about the Halseth farm in Maridalen a while ago and then forgot all about it. I do my family genealogy once in a while.
I guess I was at the moment stuck on the notion that Halseth farm was in Øker Aker where Johan Martin was born.
Was there such a thing as a smaller farm being within a larger farm or not? Or was every farm independent of another?
Again, thanks for the clarification and reminder.
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Originally posted by olavveka
Concerning Halseth: It turns out that there is a tenant farm called Halset in Maridalen in Oslo or the old county Aker in the 1800's see: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/31ec01f79cb28def8c8109507da25c80.nbdigital?lang=no#7
I would think this is the origin of the surname Halseth. At that time tenants or crofters frequently invented a name for their small farms. The element SET in this name was generally not used after 1000 AD, there is only one farm in Eastern Norway by the name Halset from viking times, which is located in the county of Ringsaker. There is no Hasle farm in the vicinity of Halset.
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Ole Olsen Underbakke & Thorbjør Olsdatter Underbak
