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Ronjulee
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Australia
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  12:11:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am trying to trace the ancestry of Severin Cecil Johnson/Johanson. B-1869 and D-1934 (in Kalgoorlie Australia) He married a Louisa Vivian in Broken Hill Australia.Hi ancestry is related to danish or Norwegian royals because my mother, Gladys Davey (nee Johnson) received a $40AUD inheritance from the royal family.

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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  15:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might want to delete the two extra topics you posted on this same person.

Obituary from The Trove via Elephind.com Western Argus (Kalgoorlie) Tuesday, 18 Dec 1934, pg 15 col1 ( Family Notices)

JOHNSON.--At . the Government
Hospital Kalgoorlie, on Decem
ber 11,.1934, Severin Johnson, of
42 Robert street Kalgoorlie (late
of Brown Hill), loving husband
of Louisa, and fond father of Mr.
and Mrs. Miller, Mr. and Mrs. C.
Johnson, Mr. and Mrs. Vickers,
Mr. and Mrs. A. Johnson, Mr. and
Mrs. Terry, Mr.. and .Mrs. Ren-
frey, Mr. and Mrs. Christie, Mr.
and Mrs. Adamson, and Thelma
(deceased). Interred privately,
December 12.

Have you got Severin's death certificate, marriage records and birth records for each of his children?

Cecil is not a common name in Norway, what is the source for that name and the detail that he was born in Norway?

Edited by - jkmarler on 09/02/2017 16:11:31
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  16:56:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like his marriage record but using the name Steven

Steven Johnson
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Steven Johnson
Spouse Name: Louisa Vivian
Marriage Date: 1893
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Number: 2590

Severin Johnson
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Severin Johnson
Death Place: Western Australia
Registration Year: 1934
Registration Place: East Coolgardie, Western Australia
Registration Number: 290

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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  17:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well for what its worth a Family Tree on Ancestry has this person. No sources in the tree for any of the many Norwegian family it has listed.

Severin Johnson
1868–1934
BIRTH 30/09/1868 • Egersund, Rogaland, Norway
DEATH 11/12/1934 • East Coolgardie, Western Australi

This is likely the family in the 1865 Census.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1116&kenr=001&bnr=0013&lnr=000

The year is wrong in the Tree as this is likely the person they are referring to.

Severin Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Severin Johansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 sep 1869
Baptism Date: 31 okt 1869 (31 Oct 1869)
Baptism Place: Egersund,Rogaland,Norway
Father: John Eriksen
Mother: Anne Pernille Petersdr
FHL Film Number: 126108

Baptism in Digitalarkivet See number 124

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070503610274

A Geni.com tree for Anne Pernille Pedersdatter, No husband or children listed.

Google Peder Pedersen Midbrød b 1801

Severin and family in 1875 Census.

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052242000118

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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  17:47:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well this pops up so the Tree may not be as far fetched as I first assumed.

Severin Johnson
in the Victoria, Australia, Index to Naturalisation Certificates, 1851-1928
Name: Severin Johnson
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1869
Certificate Date: 30 Jun 1890
Naturalisation Place: Victoria, Australia
Native Place: Egersund, Norway

The original document lists his Occupation as Seaman and Address as Footscray or Foolscray?
Certificate Number: 5069

Probably this place from Wikipedia

Footscray is a suburb (neighbourhood) 5 km west of Melbourne, Australia.

Edited by - lyndal40 on 09/02/2017 17:51:49
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  17:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not found where Severin ever used the name Cecil, but it seems he did name a son Cecil.

Cecil G A Johnson
in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Cecil G A Johnson
Birth Date: 1894
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Severin Johnson
Mother: Louisa
Registration Number: 7777
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  17:58:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptismal entry for Severin has an X or a + by his name, which might mean that he is expired or something else...
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  18:12:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Severin b 1869 in Eigersund, Rogalund
Confirmation
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/279/pk00000000724806

Do you have a cover letter that accompanied the money? Consider investigating who the money came from.

We don't know yet if the Ancestry.com tree is correct, but it might be. The family tree creator has identified a no doubt wonderful - but not royal - Norwegian family as Severin's family. They lived on Midbrød in Eigersund, Rogaland. Usually a family tree creator is a descendant, and if so would be a cousin of yours.

Kalgoorlie cemetery lists him as Severin Johnson (no "Cecil") link

Edited by - JaneC on 09/02/2017 23:09:17
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  18:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting that there is an attest dated 1875 on his confirmation transcription:
{Attest:} V 1875-06-17
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eibache
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Norway
6316 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2017 :  20:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The attestation in the confirmation record relates to the date he was vacinated.

Einar
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 09/02/2017 :  22:31:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Johan Eriksen and Anne Pernille Pedersdatter 23 okt 1862 (23 Oct 1862) Number 11

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070503620180

Probably the baptism of John Erikcsen, Based on Ancestry.com record

John Eriksen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: John Eriksen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 jul 1840
Baptism Date: 26 jul 1840
Baptism Place: Ogna,Rogaland,Norway
Father: Erik Eriksen
Mother: Sibylle Henriksdr
FHL Film Number: 126107

And a tough to read Digitalarkviet Baptism record number 8

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051208010106

Probably the family of Erik Eriksen and Sibylle Henriksdatter in 1865 Census.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1116&kenr=009&bnr=0015&lnr=000

Their marriage in 1819 Number 4 right hand page

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060127040337

Probably Sibilla Magretha Henricsdatter* in the 1801 Census

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1801&knr=1116&kenr=001&bnr=0252&lnr=00

Her baptism number 17 right hand page 17 mai 1798 (17 May 1798)

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070418650538

Probably Eric Ericsen in the 1801 Census in Haa (Hå)

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058351000750

His baptism fourth entry down on right hand page 28 jun 1795

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070620610502

Google Sybilla Margrethe Henriksdatter Vatnemot for a Geni.com tree of this family

Edited by - lyndal40 on 09/02/2017 23:59:02
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  01:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good work!

Geni tree for Severin: link

No "Cecil" in his name in the tree.. seemingly that may have been a mistake?

Edited by - JaneC on 10/02/2017 01:14:43
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  02:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The geni.com Severin also has a different estimated birthyear. It would be best for someone to connect the dots in Australia between the Severin in the naturalization record to the Severin who dies in 1934, otherwise there are numerous others in Norway to explore.
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Ronjulee
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Australia
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Posted - 02/03/2017 :  02:46:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Lyndal40, Footscray is a suburb of Melbourne. I have a copy of the naturalisation note for Severin.

RD
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Ronjulee
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Australia
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Posted - 03/03/2017 :  14:38:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JaneC
I do not have a letter or certificate or receipt for the inheritance. Gladys Davey and siblings were all tall blue eyes and her children also. I have even searched wills etc but not a thing comes up

RD
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