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ToreL
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 Posted - 13/02/2023 : 08:31:22
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The difference between maler and malermester is the same in Norwegian as in other languages, maler just means painter while a malermester -- master painter -- was a painter with the right to keep his own shop, keep employees and take assignments directly from customers.
All this was regulated by a painter's guild, and I once read that in the 18th and (at least early) 19th century in Norway this guild organised house painters as well as canvas painters. |
Edited by - ToreL on 13/02/2023 08:45:41 |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 19:51:26
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I have a question:
I've been trying to find pictures of anyone pertaining to my family. So, I've searched online seeing that I haven't been able to contact my cousins in Norway, as I haven't found many to contact... In any case, I was on the DIGITALMUSEUM website and found that there's a picture with the same name one of my removed cousins, named Rolf Øhrn (HENDRIKSEN) [B. March 30th, 1906 in Oslo, and D. May 11th, 1924]. He was the son of Carl Fredrik Hendriksen [B. March 16th, 1874, and D. July 3rd, 1937].
First of all, about the picture I found; HERE'S the source... https://digitaltmuseum.no/011013535529/nfb-07002 & https://digitaltmuseum.no/011013535528/nfb-07001
I wanted to know if there's any way to confirm that this was indeed the Rolf from my family tree born in 1906. The picture was taken in 1913, I believe, meaning that my Rolf would be 7 years old. It seems to correspond...
Secondly, his father Carl was apparently a painter. I have the same question about him that I previously asked on this thread; Was he a painter of houses, etc... OR was he a painter of canvases and visual arts? If you know, is there any way to see if his work can be found anywhere (or a reference to his work)?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 20:04:41
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Rolf is listed as a måler also at the time of his death, but he is given Hendriksen as a surname.
There is another Rolf Ohrn (without Hendriksen added) b 1898 living in Oslo.... |
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ToreL
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 21:44:29
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| Doesn't the boy in the photo look more than 7 years old? My guess is it shows the 1998-boy. The photo was taken in June of 1913, and the 1998-boy was confirmed in May of that year. It was quite common to have children photographed in their new confirmation suit or dress. |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 21:55:13
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Rolf is listed as a måler also at the time of his death, but he is given Hendriksen as a surname.
There is another Rolf Ohrn (without Hendriksen added) b 1898 living in Oslo....
Yeah, I think that there's a link proves that the person in the pictures was not my Rolf Øhrn (b. 1906) but was the one born in 1898. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/279/pk00000002384574
It's a confirmation for the 1898 Rolf Øhrn from less than a month before the pictures. |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 21:58:38
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Originally posted by ToreL
Doesn't the boy in the photo look more than 7 years old? My guess is it shows the 1998-boy. The photo was taken in June of 1913, and the 1998-boy was confirmed in May of that year. It was quite common to have children photographed in their new confirmation suit or dress.
Yes, I think you're right. Was that surname somewhat common? If not, then isn't there a possibility that there's a connection between both families? I'm going to look into this idea. |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 22:00:47
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| Also, what can you tell me about Karl's (Rolf's father) brother, Gustav Adolf Øhrn Hendriksen (family musician, born in 1872 and dead in 1954...? |
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 16/02/2023 : 23:09:27
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| Örn/Ørn/Øhrn/Øren is not very common, but not very rare, either. People with that name don't have to be related. In some cases it indicates Swedish heritage. Örn means eagle in Swedish (as well as in Norwegian) and was used ad a soldier's name. (To better distinguish all the Ohlssons and Nielssons from each other.) Many non-related Swedes were assigned this name during military service, and held on to it afterwords. The other origin of the name is a geographical formation, a bank of sediments deposited along a river. Øyr is the Norwegian name for this; Øyri or Øyra in determinate form, and people living or keeping a farm at such a place could use it as a family name. When the Danish priest wrote it down in the church book, it usually ended up as Øren or even Ørn. I believe that was the origin in this case. This variant or Ørn is more common in Western norway (or indicate Western Norwegian heritage) with strong rivers down from the mountains depositing large amounts of sand as they approach the sea. |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 05/03/2023 : 05:00:47
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Knut Bryn was a contributor to this discussion at Slektsforum in 2009. In 2010 he wrote a dissertation on recruitment for Årdal copper works.. Copper mining at Årdal was discontinued in 1734, whereupon most of the workers relocated to Kongsberg. Twenty years later there was new activity for some years, but in the end 17 new workers left Årdal for Kongsberg. (Page 71 of the dissertation.) The dissertation mentions some workers with the Øren surname, but I haven't been following this discussion closely enough to determine how relevant they are. (For the past week or more I have ended up at Plesk every time I tried to access this site.)
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Do you have any idea where I can contact him? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/03/2023 : 23:10:01
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| Lots of Knut Bryn listed here: www.1881.no |
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johanAronsen63
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ToreL
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ToreL
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Posted - 06/03/2023 : 00:30:31
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| I suggest you ask Årdal sogelag if they have Knut Bryn's contact info. Their email address is listed on the front page of their website. |
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*Johan’s genealogical study #3*
