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jacksont1
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Posted - 12/01/2006 :  23:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have several leads at to which ships my ancestors crossed the pond on but none of the ships list match any of the people I show crosing. I have a Ole P. Selseng and his wife Ragnhild crossing in 1844 along with many children. None of the ship lists match and I checked all ship lists from 1944. Please help.


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afemrite
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  06:05:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure if you know or not but most likely Ole P. Selseng's last name is not Selseng. This is a place name, I know there is one in Sogndal Parish, Sogn og Fjordane, Norway. It could be that P. is the actual abreviation for his last name. Maybe Petersen or something. If they're from Sogndal then the main port from there was from Bergen to Quebec, Canada.

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1844

Above is a site that lists many ships lists that left in 1844 particularly. You should try the 1845 or 1843 ones as well.

You could also try http://digitalarkivet.uib.no and check their census records of Norwegians in the US. They have them for 1880, 1860 and 1850.

Wish you luck,

Angela Femrite
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jacksont1
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  15:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should have given a little more data. Full names that I have from their church in Mt. Morris Wisconsin is Ole Perdersen Selseng and Ragnhild Tostendatter Alme. They came to America in 1844 with their 5 children Marta, Peder Ragnhild Kristi and Kari. I found some research a family member did and they thought they came across on teh Ornen, but I can not match up the names. I will check through Canada next. Thanks.
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  17:30:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mt Morris was/is in Waushara County, Wisconsin? Censuses for that county list a number of Norwegian born 'Selsing' families. The oldest family member I noticed on the 1900 census was Ole Selsing, in the household of his son Peter Selsing. Ole lists his birth as Sept 1808? in Norway.
The 1880 census lists them as Peter Selsing and Ole Selsing.
The 1870 census lists both Peter and Ole with surname spelled as Selcing.
The 1860 census lists them as Peeter Peeterson and Ole Peeterson.

If one of your objectives is to find WHERE in Norway they came from - you might investigate the later arriving emigrants who settled in that area of Wisconsin who also list their surnme as 'Selsing' in US censuses.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  19:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, actually, in 1844 they would have come in to New York, not Quebec if you look at the information on this site. The Quebec arrivals did not start until 1851.

Have you checked the Castle Garden free website, it is not complete but almost done:

http://www.castlegarden.org/
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jacksont1
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  19:48:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the correct Ole Selseng(changed to selsing). I am tring to find out what ship they crossed in. I signed up for a membership with Ancestory.com (really great) and it says that he Left Norway on Apr 1 1844 and arrived on Aug 1 1844. I do not see any ships that match that timeframe.
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Jo Anne Sadler
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Posted - 13/01/2006 :  19:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can get this same information free on Rootsweb.com - there is a contact name and email address for this posting, hopefully it is still current. It also says his name was Ole Pedersewg (oh well) Selseng. A four month voyage unlikely even in those days. It also gives Ragnild a date of death of 1901 but in the 1900 census Ole was a widower. If you have the Ancestry census subscription he is indexed as Ole Lelsing, 91, daughter.

Just remember that alot of the family trees posted on the Internet are unresearched, unverified and undocumented. People just keep downloading the information and reposting the incorrect information.
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