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howellksd
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Posted - 28/04/2008 :  03:40:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was born in 1855 and was my great-great grandfather. He emigrated to Minneapolis via Quebec and Chicago, but we don't know when.

His son- my great-grandfather, Henry Ludwig Hertzenberg, died at the age of 36 in 1929. We believe he was born in Minnesota, so Carl would have probably sailed between 1855 and 1893. We have few records about his family. Carl lived to be 100 years old and was president of the Sons of Norway. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks!

S Howell

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USA
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Posted - 28/04/2008 :  04:57:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1900 US census
HERTZENBERG CARL 45 M W NORW MN HENNEPIN 6-WD MINNEAPOLIS born May 1855 immigrated 1882
Wife Maria born Norway April 1856 married 11 years
Daughter Jessie born Aug 1884 in Michigan (could be Carl's step-daughter)
Daughter Minnie born Oct 1889 Minnesota
Son Henry born Sept 1893 Minnesota
In the 1820 census he is listed as Charlie with the same immigration year.

Carla
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 28/04/2008 :  06:55:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carl emigrated via Kristiania (Oslo) May 6 1882 see 51651
his home was in Ulensaker and he was born May 7 1855, see #116
he was baptized Carl Ludvig and his parents were Lars Olsen and Karen Larsdatter Oppen.
In the 1865 census his parents and siblings are here
Carls parents married Jun 11 1845, see #15
his father Lars Olaus Freylin Hertzenberg 21 years old was born at Skydsmoe, his mother Kari Larsdatter 32 years old came from Holen.
Kari was confirmed Oct 5 1828, see #6
she was born July 15 1812 and her parents were Lars Jogersen and Ane Sørensdatter at the Holen farm.
Lars Olavus Frøyling was born March 7 1824 and bapt. March 15. See #29 his parents were Ole Hertzenberg and Berthe Larsdatter.
Ole Antonisen Hertzenberg and Birthe Larsdatter Rolstad were married Oct 23 1817, see #12
Ole was petty officer in the army and 28 years old, Birthe was 22 years old.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 28/04/2008 09:53:59
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howellksd
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Posted - 28/10/2008 :  06:46:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks so much for your assistance!

S Howell
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 29/10/2008 :  07:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Antonisen Hertzenberg (1788) married to Birthe Larsdatter Rolstad (1795 bapt Nov 8 see bottom of left page) had the following children
Lars Olavus Frøyling, born March 7 1824
Berthe Maria, born April 27 1821 bapt May 13 see #37

Berthe Larsdatter, her mother and siblings in 1801

Lars Olsen Rolstad, bapt April 11 1748 Ullensaker, Akershus died 1798 married Gjertrud Kjøstelsdatter Restad 20 July 1776 Ullensaker, Akershus
Gjertrud Kjøstelsdatter Restad April 21 1750 Ullensaker, Akershus died 1781, they had a daughter
Marthe bapt March 25 1777.

Lars Olsen Rolstad married Marthe Olsdatter Jan 3 1782, see second from bottom of left hand page here
they had the following children
Gjertrud, bapt Sept 28 1783 (died)
Dorthe, bapt Dec 5 1784 (died)
Ole, bapt April 17 1786, see 2nd from top, right hand page here
Mari, bapt June 1 1788
Gjertrud, bapt Nov 1 1790
Dorte, bapt Aug 18 1793
Berthe, bapt Nov 8 1795

Marthe olsdatter and her children in 1801

Ole Antonisens parents were
Antoni Olsen Hertzenberg (born 1759, died Oct 19 1831 see #62) married March 26 1784 to Berthe Larsdatter (born Dec 7 1762 – her parents were Lars Olsen and Andrea Mathisdatter) Revsom see 1801
they had the children
Anne Sophia Antonidatter, born 1785
Johan Henrik Antonisen Hertzenberg, born 1786
Ole Antonisen Hertzenberg, born 1788
Bernt Antonisen Hertsenberg, born Febr 19 bapt Febr 27 1791
Niels Antonisen Hertsenberg, born Febr 19 bapt Febr 27 1791
Malene Antonidatter, born 1797

Antoni Olsen Hertzenbergs parents were
Ole Berntsen Hertzenberg (born 1731 in Lom, Oppland) married July 26 1754 to Berthe Malene Ramm (born 1726 in Lom, Oppland – her parents were Johan Henrik Ramm and Anna Eilertsen von Hadeln)

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 29/10/2008 14:38:32
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howellksd
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Posted - 22/01/2009 :  04:40:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello again! The link below has a picture of Carl's family, probably in 1865 when he was 10 years old. (Click on Lars Hertzenberg photo near the bottom of the page.) Based on the 1865 census information you so graciously linked me to, I'm guessing that the picture doesn't include his oldest sister, Alette, and his oldest brother, August. There are 2 little girls in the photo whose identities are unknown.

I'm wondering if Carl's mother was married before and who the girls might be?

Also, after checking the 1875 census in Ullensaker, I noticed several unfamiliar household names in both Lars Olsen Hertzenberg's farm and the one that Carl's sister, Petra, lived on with her husband, Hans Nafstad and her brother, Pauli Hertzenberg. Any background information on those people and the connections to my Hertzenberg relatives? Thank you so much for all your assistance! Shari

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/e/r/Richard-L-Hertzenberg-KS/index.html

S Howell
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2009 :  08:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carls sister Petra Julie married Hans Jakob Olsen Nov 25 1874, see #26
their first child Ole Ludvig was born Oct 1 1875, see #129
quote:
I'm wondering if Carl's mother was married before and who the girls might be?

when Carls parents married his mother was "pige" - had not been married before. If the photo with parents and 3 sons and 3 daughters was taken approx 1865 it does not reflect the 1865 census where Lars and Kari had 4 sons and 2 daughters. Could you name each person (from left to right) in the photo?
The 1875 census does not indicate that Lars and Kari had any more children than in the 1865 census.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 22/01/2009 09:04:49
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2009 :  10:25:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carls sister Alette Birgitte married Ole Gunnerius Hansen Dec 30 1867, see #25
I don't know if it may be of interest, but Carls brother Oluf was baptized Oluf Frøidelin, see #139

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 22/01/2009 10:58:30
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howellksd
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Posted - 22/01/2009 :  22:27:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Could you name each person (from left to right) in the photo?"

I'm guessing in the photo that the order is Pauli, Lars, Petra, Carl, Oluf and Kari with the two unknown little girls.

Thank you! Shari

S Howell
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 22/01/2009 :  23:53:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am afraid I do not think that the two unknown girls are the cildren of Lars and Kari.

Einar
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