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Kċarto
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  16:08:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We posted at the same time.
Lie is the farm in the back ground.

Kċre
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eibache
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  17:34:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lie is Li in the map today.

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Lislcat
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  18:33:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The farm name changed to Berget, by the time of the 1900 Norway Census. My gg grandfather Jens Nilsen Gjedberget died in 1893 on Berget under Lie.
Yes, from what I can tell Li is the Lie farm that my family is from. I know this, because the farms surrounding it, are all related to me and are either right before or after Lie. Jens Nilsen's son Nils is on Fyksehaugen and his daughter, Mathea, is on Fysken, in the 1900 Norway Census.

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Lislcat
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  18:56:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Einar, I see Berget on the map that you posted. It is northwest of Li. I'm guessing that Berget was at one time a subfarm of Li and therefore it was called Berget under Lie. On the map, it is near Braten and Hovde.

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eibache
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  20:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I put a marker on Berget.

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Lislcat
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  21:41:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Takk Einar! Much easier to see that way. :-)
I was surprised to see how much farm land is in that area. I thought with all the mountains, that there wouldn't be many large farms, but it looks like the fields are still being used.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  07:45:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei Wanda, guess you now since your Norwegian is good.

Ged-, Gjed, Geit- means goat
Berge/Berget means mountain, rock.
The location of Gjedberget in Ĝstre Gausdal must be at the bottom of a steep mountain or rock where only goats could climb.
Lie-Li-Lia-Lien means hillside.

In 1900 Amund Olsen b. 1850 owned Berget in Ĝstre Gausdal, father widower Ole Guttormsen b. 1819 lived on the farm.
In 1910 a son Jacob (Amundsen) Berget b. 1876 owned Berget, grandfather and former owner widower Ole Berget b. 1819 lived on the farm, see here

A lookup in Gausdal Bygdebok would hopefully have told who they were.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 29/09/2011 08:14:27
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  08:12:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reg. a Dragon soldier (Cavalryman).
From 1784 a Dragon in Oplandske Dragonregiment was wearing a light blue uniform, yellow collar and thin yellow bands around pockets and button holes.
He was armed with sword, musket and one or to two pistols.
He was trained to fight both on horseback and on the ground.
A Dragon had a service at a maximum 10 years.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 29/09/2011 08:13:29
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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  09:44:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wanda.
Did you know that Johannes Berge had a sister Ida?
She was born on Lieeiet jan. 4. 1849, right page #2

Your family lived on Gedberget 1865, Ida was a servant girl on Ĝsterlid

Ida Jensdatter Lie-eiet married Mathias Bĝrresen Hovde Mai 5. 1874, #6

Your Jens Nilsen Berget born on Berget under Lie died on Hovdesveen, see #6

Ida Jensdatter and Mathias with 4 children on Hovdesveen 1900

Hovdesveen1910 (the date and last name for Ida does not correspond), 2 children and a daughters daughter Ingeborg b. 1905

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 29/09/2011 09:51:24
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Lislcat
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  15:35:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kċre, it's morning here and just about spit my coffee out when I read this, I was so excited! I only have Nils, Johannes, Mathea and Peder. Thanks so much for this info. Another line to try and find.

There isn't a Gausdal bygdebok. There is a Gausdal history book, that talks about very general things. My friend, that also is a descendant from Berget, translated parts of it pertaining to Lie. That is how I found out that it use to be used for church services and that I believe, there had even been a building on Lie that was considered to be a church. I don't believe that building exists today.
Thanks so much for the information on Ida!!! I'm very excited. Time for another coffee. :-)

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Lislcat
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  17:01:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was Jens Nilsen Berget's death from ulcers, stomach ulcers? It's hard to make out the word, but it looks similar to mavesċr.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  20:02:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei, just returned from a meeting.
We have an indian summer, 25 C in Kongsberg today.
Well, it will not last for many days, soon fall.

Seems like you have many more relatives in Norway.
Diff to read what he died of; Mave.... Stomach.....

Hilsen Kċre
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Lislcat
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  21:08:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quick question. What does the "eie" mean after Lie? When I look that up, it means "to own", but my family were not property owners.
An Indian Summer sounds nice. We've had 5 days of rain and today, we have winds at 55 mph.

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking it was stomach ulcers, as that was very common in my Dad's family.

Wanda

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Kċarto
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  23:11:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hei.
Eie means owned by;
Berget , Gjedberget or Lie-eiet was a sub farm under Lie.

Hilsen Kċre
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eibache
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Posted - 29/09/2011 :  23:30:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Diff to read what he died of; Mave.... Stomach.....
- it was a Mavetilfĉlde - (abdominal case).
He was living at Hovdesvea when he died.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 29/09/2011 23:33:31
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