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KLeach
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Posted - 11/10/2014 :  04:39:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wondering if there is a possibility that the Christen Larsen from this entry could be the same as the one listed in my previous post:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=vi02371861&personpostnr=1501&merk=1501

I have unsupported information that there are more of Christen's children that include: Lars (b. abt 1820), Olea (b.abt 1824), John (b. abt 1826) and Anna (b. abt 1837). It is believed most of the children were born in Eidsvoll.

And potentially Gulbrand (b.1851):

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=kf02371861&personpostnr=1639&merk=1639
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(Previous) There is an indication that Olea's father's name was Christen Larsen from this entry in the Vigde i Eidsvoll sokn i Eidsvoll prestegjeld 1861-1876 :

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=vi02371861&personpostnr=722&merk=722

There may be other siblings to Anna and Olea: Lars (b.abt 1820), John (b. abt 1826), both possibly in Eidsvoll.

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Originally posted by KLeach

The mother we have on file for Anton is Olea Kristensdatter, b.abt. 1824 in Eidsvoll. Here she is in 1865:

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f60237&gardpostnr=1315&personpostnr=7289&merk=7289#ovre

The family name seems to fit with Anna Jorgine.

No information as of yet on Olea, and possibly Anna's parents. It would seem that this could provide a connection to the fadderes.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=vi02371861&personpostnr=722&merk=722

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Originally posted by jkmarler

Sorry, I should have looked it up before I posted about Anton. There was an Anton discussed but apparently it was regards the Rasmus Christianson Buness family not the Eidsvold Bunæs' of yours.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between Jenson and Johnson in the family already so perhaps Johanson is just another variation. It might be worthwhile to search the 1875 census for Eidsvold just to see how many Anton Christiansons there might be.

Did you ever look for connections with the fadderes of Hjordis? Just in case not here are Simon and Anna Jorgine in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=f70301&gardpostnr=629&personpostnr=18912&merk=18912#ovre




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Edited by - KLeach on 11/10/2014 05:23:31
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/10/2014 :  14:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The one circumstance that makes Gulbrand hard to accept is that he is born 30 years after suspect Lars. This span of years might only be possible if the first wife has died and Christen has moved on to another wife, events exceedingly difficult to find in Eidsvold considering the dearth of pastoral records. Perhaps there are estate records for Christen Larsen?
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KLeach
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Posted - 12/10/2014 :  08:04:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went through the Eidsvoll lensmann and found these references, but some are difficult to read and I need some help translating:

(Mai 3, 1862 entry) http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27723/25/?size=gigant&mode=0

(July 18/19, 1869? entry) http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27723/62/?size=gigant&mode=0

(R page, Nov 20, 1874 entry, Kristian vs. Christen) http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27724/22/?size=gigant&mode=0

Any help would be appreciated.
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Originally posted by jkmarler

The one circumstance that makes Gulbrand hard to accept is that he is born 30 years after suspect Lars. This span of years might only be possible if the first wife has died and Christen has moved on to another wife, events exceedingly difficult to find in Eidsvold considering the dearth of pastoral records. Perhaps there are estate records for Christen Larsen?


Edited by - KLeach on 12/10/2014 08:14:55
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KLeach
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Posted - 12/10/2014 :  08:08:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found this link in the 1883 Eidsvoll lensmannn which may be Olea Kristensdatter, but cannot make out the information in the Feb. 27 entry:

http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27724/62/?size=gigant&mode=0

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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

The link in your second most recent post appears not to be about Olia's connections, it's from:

Source information: Nordland county, Øksnes, Parish register (official) nr. 893A01 (1718-1749), Chronological list 1725, no page no.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16729&idx_id=16729&uid=ny&idx_side=-109

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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/10/2014 :  20:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KLeach

I found this link in the 1883 Eidsvoll lensmannn which may be Olea Kristensdatter, but cannot make out the information in the Feb. 27 entry:

http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27724/62/?size=gigant&mode=0




I think it says
Føderaadsenke
Thore (?) Olea
Kristens
datter ________
_____ 64 years old

survived by
son Anton Karel
sen Øst______
_____, of age.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 13/10/2014 :  00:26:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
-----Kristensdatter Smedstad........Son Anton Povelsen (Paulsen) Østerudhagen, occ.Cutter on a pulp mill link

Kåre
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KLeach
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Posted - 14/10/2014 :  01:57:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for helping. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be the correct Olea. I am up to 1902 in the Eidsvoll lensmann and still haven't found anything on her, but will keep looking page by page.
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Originally posted by Kåarto

-----Kristensdatter Smedstad........Son Anton Povelsen (Paulsen) Østerudhagen, occ.Cutter on a pulp mill link

Kåre


Edited by - KLeach on 14/10/2014 01:59:15
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KLeach
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Posted - 08/12/2014 :  07:31:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am seeking more definitive information on Sigrid/Siggri Gudmundsdatter/Buness and her possible marriage to Olaf Bunaes/Buness.

She is referenced in Anne Brit Benum's post:

http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6138&whichpage=2

Sigrid and Olaf were apparently married in 1892. I have been unable to find any references to the marriage in Størdahlen, Meråker, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway, where she was born and raised.

I have also consulted Family Search, but have been unable to locate any marriage records for Olaf and Sigrid in the USA:

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Asiggri%20%2Bsurname%3Abunes~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Aolaf~

Here is Sigri/Sigrid, her parents and siblings in the 1875-telling for 1711 Meråker first referenced by JK Marler:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=18&filnamn=f71711&gardpostnr=198&personpostnr=1456&merk=1456#ovre

Sigrid's baptism (#7) in Nord-Trøndelag county, Meråker in Øvre Stjørdal, Parish register (official) nr. 706A02 (1862-1877), Birth and baptism records 1870, page 25.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6620&idx_id=6620&uid=ny&idx_side=-28

JK Marler also found a possible reference to Sigrid's parents and some siblings coming to Osakis, MN. (You have to advance to the next page to see all the applicable family members travelling.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000067189

Any help would be very much appreciated.
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Name: Oluf Burness
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 191 Gordon Township Osakis village, Todd, Minnesota, USA
Birth Date: Apr 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Race or Color (Standardized): White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Estimated Marriage Year: 1892
Immigration Year: 1883

Head Oluf Burness M 32 Norway
Wife Sigrid Burness F 30 Norway
Son Severin Burness M 11 Minnesota
Daughter Ida C Burness F 8 Minnesota
Son Gilman O Burness M 5 Minnesota

The son Severin Buness was born about 1889 or two years before the marriage of Sigrid and Olaf, so his parentage isn't perfectly clear. He may be a child Sigrid and Olaf had before they married, or he may be Sigrid's child with an unknown partner or a child of Olaf and an unknown partner or even an adoptive child of the parents.

Sigrid apparently dies before 1905 and Olaf eventually marries again to a Finnish woman and possibly has a child with her.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 08/12/2014 :  07:41:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the marriage is listed in this or another of your topics. Sigrid was listed as "Sadie" Thompson on the marriage record at MOMS.

If you really want to pursue the Thompsons I'd suggest securing a copy of the will of Gudmund Thompson--might include some interesting bits for your folks unless there is more than one Gudmund Thompson in Todd county:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSG4-43G

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/12/2014 21:12:47
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KLeach
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Canada
169 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2014 :  21:26:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you.


quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

I think the marriage is listed in this or another of your topics. Sigrid was listed as "Sadie" Thompson on the marriage record at MOMS.

If you really want to pursue the Thompsons I'd suggest securing a copy of the will of Gudmund Thompson--might include some interesting bits for your folks unless there is more than one Gudmund Thompson in Todd county:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSG4-43G

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KLeach
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  04:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have hit the wall on Anton and his 2 wives.

Variations of his name include all of the following names: Anton Kristiansen Bunæs Johnson. I have seen Anglicized versions of Kristiansen/Christiansen as well. The one thread that seems promising on the US side is a person by the name of Anton C Johnson.

Some of the information I have from talking to various family members indicates Lara/Laura A as his 2nd wife's name (married 1883).

I also have a wife, Bertha Marie Olsdtr, who we believe he married in Eidsvold, Norway 13 May 1880. Don't have any further info on her, or whether she came to the US with him.

The 1900 census with children Jenny, Albert, Julia, Carl and John seems to align. There is some indication from family members (no definitive proof) of 11 children in total: Sever 1884, Jenny 1886, Albert 1888, Jewel 1891, Annie 1893, Carl H 1896, John W 1898, Fred J 1901, Arthur 1904, Harry 1906 and Edith 1910

The family appears to have settled down in the Hubbard, Minnesota area (where Anton died, we believe).

Any help on linking Anton Kristiansen Bunaes to Anton C Johnson would be greatly appreciated.

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I would be careful with the data from Ancestry.com on family trees. For the family you have provided a link to, there is very little data provided. The family descends from a John Christian Buness b 1830 and his wife Oiiva Bunness,b 1837 no sources or data provided. Several sons and daughters are listed also without sources and data. The only family member well documented is Anton Carl Buness Johnson listed as.

Anton Carl Buness Johnson
Birth 28 Aug 1858 in Trondhjem, Norway
Death 19 Feb 1935 in Rice, Minnesota, United States

Sources are 1900 US Census and Passport Application.

Most of the data on your family listed above has Akerhus Fylke for location not Trondheim. While the data on this Anton Carl Buness Johnson seems to be accurate and to have sources the rest of the family tree seems very weak.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Anton Johnson
Age: 44
Birth Date: May 1856
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Kandota, Todd, Minnesota
[Todd]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1882
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lara A Johnson
Marriage Year: 1883
Years Married: 17
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway

Edited by - KLeach on 09/04/2015 04:56:49
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  08:29:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The death record for Anton C Johnson indicates parents as Christian Buness and Olivia:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD7R-HTZ

You should probably get the actual certificate to gather all the information just in case not all the information on it has not been collected in the index above.

Here is a 26 year old Anton Kristianson leaving from Eidsvol in 1882 headed for Sauk Centre Minnesota:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000967007

There is no indication of a wife, so perhaps she has died?

The first marriage you mentioned #25:
Source information: Akershus county, Eidsvoll, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1877-1881), Marriage records 1880, page 220.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3466&idx_id=3466&uid=ny&idx_side=-197

The Anton in this marriage was likely born in Oier a different parish entirely. Here is his confirmation in Oier # 9:
Source information: Oppland county, Øyer, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1858-1874), Confirmation records 1872, page 205.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8929&idx_id=8929&uid=ny&idx_side=-192

Edited by - jkmarler on 09/04/2015 09:30:48
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eibache
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  09:35:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage of Anton Kristiansen and Berte Marie Olsdatter May 13 1880 show that Antons father was Kristian Johannesen, Øier - not your Anton whos father was Kristian Jenssen, Bunæs.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 09/04/2015 09:38:12
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KLeach
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Canada
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  17:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. Will pull that marriage from the file. That simplifies things.


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The marriage of Anton Kristiansen and Berte Marie Olsdatter May 13 1880 show that Antons father was Kristian Johannesen, Øier - not your Anton whos father was Kristian Jenssen, Bunæs.


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KLeach
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Posted - 10/04/2015 :  04:45:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some other twists:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=uf0237p1&personpostnr=202&merk=202

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=if0237p1&personpostnr=102&merk=102

Could these two references mean that the same Anton I have in my file may have moved from Eidsvoll to Oier and back and this could be the reason for the discrepancy in the marriage file? Wondering of the Johanssen/Jenssen names could be a transcription error?

Thoughts?


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Originally posted by jkmarler

The death record for Anton C Johnson indicates parents as Christian Buness and Olivia:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD7R-HTZ

You should probably get the actual certificate to gather all the information just in case not all the information on it has not been collected in the index above.

Here is a 26 year old Anton Kristianson leaving from Eidsvol in 1882 headed for Sauk Centre Minnesota:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000967007

There is no indication of a wife, so perhaps she has died?

The first marriage you mentioned #25:
Source information: Akershus county, Eidsvoll, Parish register (official) nr. 1 (1877-1881), Marriage records 1880, page 220.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3466&idx_id=3466&uid=ny&idx_side=-197

The Anton in this marriage was likely born in Oier a different parish entirely. Here is his confirmation in Oier # 9:
Source information: Oppland county, Øyer, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1858-1874), Confirmation records 1872, page 205.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8929&idx_id=8929&uid=ny&idx_side=-192

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