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Anne Brit Benum
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 Posted - 04/12/2014 : 10:01:12
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The guy I have mentioned, was born in Vang in Valdres in Oppland on July 27, 1865. His parents were Thomas Jøgersen and Marit Knutsdaughter. They lived at a place called Torstad. His confirmation took place on May 23, 1880, and the minister has written on the left side of his name that he left Norway in 1883. Via an emigrant protocol (Emigrants via Oslo/Christiania 1867-1930), Gulbrand Tomasson, 17 years old, left Oslo for Waupaca (in Wisconsin) on May 11, 1883. I am then wondering if it is possible to find more information about him!
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 23:42:18
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A family who left on the same day as Gulbrand and are also from Vang Valdres is found arriving in New York on May 25th on the Adriatic. So far I have not found Gulbrand on that ship.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Anders K Hagen
Arrival Date: 25 May 1883
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Adriatic
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Adriatic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2014 : 23:46:12
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This is my best guess as to your Gulbrand arriving in America. Name is relatively close and age is spot on. Looking at the original manifest I would say that the last name is very likely Tomasson and the first name could be Gulbrand.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Galbian Tounsson
Arrival Date: 25 May 1883
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Adriatic
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Adriatic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/12/2014 23:48:32 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 04:47:35
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A resource here
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Edited by - JaneC on 06/12/2014 04:48:26 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 11:25:03
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Being unsuccessful in finding Gulbrand / Gudbrand Thomasson here is an extreme long shot in Gilbert Thompson.
Gilbert Thompson b Jul 1866 udv 1883 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMR3-DBC
Gilbert Thompson b. 1865 udv 1882 1910 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLGY-3PD
Gilbert Thompson in 1916 Canadian census:
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Agilbert~%20%2Bsurname%3Athompson~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Anorway~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1864-1866~&collection_id=1529118
During the time the family was in Grand Forks, two daughters of M/M Gilbert Thompson died. An Ida Thompson died of diptheria near 2 Aug 1908 (family resided as 611 N 5th St) and Lena Alice Thompson b. 1 March 1903 Day county, S.D. d 21 Feb 1910, family residing 609 N 5th St.
Didn't find Lena Alice's birth record in the 100 year old birth records of South Dakota database but did find the births of a set of twins Peter and Bertha Thompson on 2 Aug 1902 in Day county to father Gilbert Thompson and mother's maiden name Anna Kluxdal. If both birthdates of 2 Aug 1902 and 1 Mar 1903 are true indicates a very tight turn time, not impossible, just difficult.
There were several other mentions of a Gilbert Thompson of the era of 1903-1913 in the Grand Forks Herald but lacking enough information to truly identify. One was a story of employee theft from the Nash grocery warehouse in which a Gilbert Thompson was mentioned as a non-prosecuted --didn't even lose his job!--small-time participant. And the other mention was 5 publications of a legal ad in May & June 1912, advertising a mortgage sale on a defaulted promissory note dated 5 Jan 1910 for $200 from a Gilbert and Anna Thompson on which properties were security, properties described as Lots 23, 24 in Block 69 & Lot 16 in Block 60 in Alexander and Iver addition were to be sold to recover $235.10 +$25.00. Don't know if any of these were for 609/611 North 5th St.
But as I said this candidate is an extreme long shot.
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:17:51
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Interesting find Jackie. a Family Tree on Ancestry.com identifies Anna S Thompson as Anna Sofia Kluxdal Birth Mar 1862 in Wautoma, Waushara, Wisconsin, USA, Waushara County is adjacent to Waupaca County. The site identifies her father as Iver Johannessen. "aka Ever Johnson" Kluksdal.
Connects the family with this record.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Ever Johnson
Age: 78
Birth Year: abt 1802
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Emeline Johnson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
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Occupation: Farmer
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Household Members:
Name Age
Ever Johnson 78
Emeline Johnson 48
John Johnson 21
Anna S. Johnson 19
Joseph A. Johnson 16
George Johnson 13
Sarah Johnson 10
Louisa Johnson 8 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/12/2014 17:18:37 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:22:17
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Does the database say anything about Anne Sophie's husband and her family?
Is the brother George identified as Rev. Gudmund Kluxdal? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/12/2014 17:27:57 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:40:51
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This information is provided on George
Gudmund George Kluxdal
Birth 21 Aug 1866 in Mt Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin, USA
Death 25 Feb 1936 in Decorah, Winneshiek, Iowa, USA |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:44:58
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Information on Anne Sophie includes only husband's name and info probably from the 1900 US Census. and a list of the couples seven children along with birth years. Source is probably 1900 Census
Gilbert Thompson
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:51:14
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In the 1895 Minnesota State Census there is a Gilbert Thompson and wife Anne S living in Todd County with three children, Iver, Ida and Imar. They are living with a Gudmund Thompson age 55 and wife Ingeborg and a Andreas ? age 17.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Gilbert Thompson
Age: 28
Census Date: 1895
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Race: White
LINE: 30
Roll: V290_101 |
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Anne Brit Benum
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:51:39
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I am so very impressed by all the fantastic answers I have received from you. "Rollo" was the name of the ship he left on, and I do not know any other names that went westwards with him from Vang in Valdres - but it may have been those who are mentioned in the answers, although the boat was different. The Gilbert Thompson-name is probably his new one. I am asking then: Was he married? Did he have any children?
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:54:04
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Info on Gudmund
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Gudmund Thompson
Age: 55
Census Date: 1895
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Race: White
LINE: 27
Roll: V290_101 |
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 17:54:36
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| jkmarler's answer is the answer I needed - this is so very interesting! Thank you VERY MUCH. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2014 : 22:39:07
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Probably Gudmund and his wife and son in the 1900 US Census. Maybe a little early to assign Gilbert Thompson to Gulbrand Tomasson. It is possible that Gilbert is the son of Gudmund Thompson of Todd County, Minnesota.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Gustmond Thompson
[Gudminst Thompson]
Age: 61
Birth Date: Feb 1839
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Gordon, Todd, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ingeborg Thompson
Marriage Year: 1860
Years Married: 40
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation:
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Household Members:
Name Age
Gustmond Thompson 61
Ingeborg Thompson 59
Andrew Thompson 22 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/12/2014 22:43:14 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2014 : 00:13:42
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Originally posted by lyndal40
In the 1895 Minnesota State Census there is a Gilbert Thompson and wife Anne S living in Todd County with three children, Iver, Ida and Imar. They are living with a Gudmund Thompson age 55 and wife Ingeborg and a Andreas ? age 17.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Gilbert Thompson
Age: 28
Census Date: 1895
County: Todd
Locality: West Union
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Race: White
LINE: 30
Roll: V290_101
Google found a family tree at Ancestry very like the one already mentioned in which Gilbert Thompson is also identified as "Ingebret Gudmundson", no source but likely to do with this finding of the Gilbert and Anna couple in 1895. As I said, twice, it would be a long shot for Gilbert to be Gulbrand but by the numbers he was at least not ripe for immediate elimination.
Making the name Gulbrand into Gilbert is a fairly common happening as well as making Thompson from any T-beginning patronymic. Also the 1895 Minnesota census doesnot give relationship data to the head of household, that information would have to be found elsewhere. So maybe back to Square One. |
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Gulbrand/Gudbrand Tomasson, born July 27, 1865
