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cherylvanata
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 Posted - 05/10/2015 : 21:08:47
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| Is the 1865 Census for Nannestad incomplete. Can't find jens Hansen (1823, wife Anne Ingelsdatter (1821) Living Children: Birthe Marie (1847), Hermann (1849), Johan Gustav (1854) Lars Christian (1856), Olavus (1859), Edvard (1862) & Harold (1864). Can't find them on 1875 other than Johanne is found in Ullensaker, Akershus. Also Johanne Jensdatter has a daughter born out of wedlock and named Lena (19 Nov 1877) in Vestre Aker, Oslo. Supposedly emigrated in 1881 to America. No trace of emigration but Lena is found in Kragness, Clay, Minnesota and marries John Dolan in Cuba, Becker, MN. Any help with Census, emigration for Johanne and daughter Lena or where abouts of Johanne in America welcome. Lena takes the name Melby and there is a Johanne Melby in Cuba, Becker, MN but she is married to Gulbrand Larsen and her name was Johanne Ericksdatter. |
Edited by - cherylvanata on 05/10/2015 21:38:14 |
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Hopkins
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JaneC
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 02:51:19
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This looks like at least a small part of the family in this version of the 1875 Census from Ancestry.com.
Jens Hansen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Jens Hansen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: abt 1823
Birth Place: Bjerke S
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Rudseie et Rudsbraaten, Akershus, Norway
Age: 52
Clerical District: Nannestad
Circuit Number: 7
List Number: 110
Farm Number: 260a
FHL Film Number: 255633
Household Members:
Name Age
Jens Hansen 52
Anna Ingelsdatter 53
Edvart Jensen 13
Harald Jensen 11
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 02:56:00
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This might be Olavus (called Olaus here). in the 1875 Census. Again using the search engine on Ancestry.com. Family seems to be separated by 1875.
Olaus Jensen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Olaus Jensen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: abt 1859
Birth Place: Bjærke Anex
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Sundby, Akershus, Norway
Age: 16
Clerical District: Nannestad
Circuit Number: 8
List Number: 70
Farm Number: 248
FHL Film Number: 255633
Household Members:
Name Age
Karen Kristoffersdtr. 43
Laurits Larsen 13
Dorthea Larsdtr 16
Jakob Nilsen 22
Kristian Kristensen 22
Olaus Jensen 16
Dorthea Larsdtr 18
Olava Olsdtr 17
Live Maria Haagensdtr. Stenengen 29 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/10/2015 02:56:35 |
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JaneC
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 03:15:58
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This could be Johan Gustav (called here only Gustav) Again on Ancestry.com.
Gustav Jensen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Gustav Jensen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: abt 1854
Birth Place: Nannestad
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Lybæk, Akershus, Norway
Age: 21
Clerical District: Nannestad
Circuit Number: 3
List Number: 87
Farm Number: 47a
FHL Film Number: 255632
Household Members:
Name Age
Gullik Kristofersen 36
Karine Hansdtr 34
Kristian Helmer 14
Caspar 12
Johan Laurits 9
Anne Mathilde 7
Hilda Carroline 1
Gustav Jensen 21
Margarette Sørensdtr 24
Christofer Gulliksen 65
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 03:26:03
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Possibly Lars Christian, again the family is largely separated by 1875. From Ancestryil.com
Lars Jensen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Lars Jensen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: abt 1855
Birth Place: Nannestad
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Knepper, Akershus, Norway
Age: 20
Clerical District: Nannestad
Circuit Number: 3
List Number: 64
Farm Number: 53A 54AB
FHL Film Number: 255632
Household Members:
Name Age
Karl J Olsen 55
Anne Olsdtr 54
Alete Constanse Olsen 31
Severine Mathilde Olsen 21
Josefine Eveline Olsen 17
Kristian Arnholdt 11
Karl Johan 27
Marthea Jacobsdtr 28
Karl Johan 2
Laurits Hjalmar 0
Lars Jensen 20 |
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cherylvanata
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 04:23:53
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| Did follow up on Johan Gustav and Else Marie Olsdatter. They came to Minnesota and ended up at the end of their life in Inverway, Mackenzie, Saskatchewan, Canada. I will follow up on these leads for Olaus in Sundby, Akershus and Gustav Jensen in Lybaek, Akershus, Lars Jensen in Knepper, Akershus and Hermand Jensen in Ullensaker. Maybe I can find more on them. I was not aware that I could access Bygdeboks thru Family Search.org. Will try to learn how to do that. The parish records for Nannestad are daunting. I can not seem to adapt to the style of writing. These other parishes may yield more information for me and clearer handwriting. Thank you so much. I was hoping that Johanne Jensdatter did marry someone from a Melby farm which would explain why her daughter Lena used that name on her marriage record. I will keep looking for a clue. Thanks for finding them and giving me hope. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 04:51:13
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A family tree says Berte Marie Jensdatter b 1847 Nannestad married Olaus Erikson and died in Clay county, Minnesota, USA:
http://www.geni.com/people/Berte-Jensdatter/6000000032009649344
Tree has Jens Hansen Bjerkeeiet b 1823, died 1883 at Rudseiet, Bjerke, Nannestad.
On Moløkken in 1900 is Lars Evensen Melby with two children born in Dakota, USA. I found no connection so far.
Cheryl, you have a marriage record for Lena? To help find out more about Lena and her mother Johanne, as you asked, the forum is much boosted if you share records and other evidence you already have. Thanks.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 05:17:13
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The marriage is recorded in the ELCA marriages database as occuring in Lake Park Lutheran on 29 Dec 1897. Lina's birthdate is recorded as 19 July 1879 born in Kristiania to parents Erik Krostophenson (most unusual rendering of the name) and Johanne Jensdatter.
There is a death record in the same church for Johanne Melby who was married to Gulbrand Melby. Her birthdate is given as 24 Aug 1828 (I'll check the year again) in Nannestad. She died 3 April 1912.
Pending my recheck of her birth year, the difference does create a question in my mind, how did you arrive at a birthdate of 1852 for your Johanne Jensdatter? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/10/2015 05:21:12 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 06:26:05
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The Minnesota state census 1905 Lina age 27 states that she has lived in Minnesota for 24 years.
There is this 3 1/2 year old Lina Jens* leaving Nannestad in 1881 with Herman Jensen, heading to Lake Park, Minnesota:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000949625
A Herman Jenson is boarding with Lina and John in 1900. |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 06:59:48
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Here is the dødfallsprotokol for Jens Hansen in 1883, top one on left hand page:
Kildeinformasjon: Akershus fylke, Nannestad lensmann, Dødsfallsprotokoll (Ha 0001.1), 1863-1886, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27782/79/
Left nothing, survived by spouse Anne Ingelsdtr & 4 adult children. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 07:45:11
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These are the Jens* who left in the early 1880s from Nannestad recorded in the police lists:
Herman Jens. Nannestad 33 20.05.1881 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Lina Jens. Nannestad 3,5 20.05.1881 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Herman Jens. Nannestad 20 20.05.1881 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Julius Jens. Nannestad 20 02.09.1881 Ada Min Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Martin Jens. Nannestad 17 31.03.1882 Albert Lea Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Olaves Jens. Nannestad 19 07.04.1882 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Johan Jens. Nannestad 17 07.04.1882 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Edvard Jens. Nannestad 20 14.04.1882 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Lars Jens. Nannestad 26 05.05.1882 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Thea Jens. Nannestad 11 20.04.1883 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Dina Jens. Nannestad 4,75 20.04.1883 Lake Park Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Marie Jens. Nannestad 24 20.04.1883 Wilmar Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Harald Jens. Nannestad 18 27.04.1883 Moorhead Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Anna Marie Jens. Nannestad 23 12.05.1905 Minnesota Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
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cherylvanata
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Posted - 06/10/2015 : 17:44:19
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| I do not have an actual record of the marriage but the local Museum has a card file. Once I had that date, Ancestry brought up the marriage information. Do not confuse Johanne Ericksdatter with Johanne Jensdatter. I have researched Johanne Ericksdatter and she also had a child out of wedlock, Married Gulbrand Larsen in Norway and they together had a son. They are buried at Lake Park, Minnesota. They are in this family also but she was easier for me to track in the Digital Archives. If the 3 1/2 year old Lina left Norway with her Uncles and not her Mother, then the Mother may have died. I will try and check that. On the census information you found: "Again using the search engine on Ancestry.com" Are you able to instruct me as to how I find a search engine on Ancestry.com? I did not know this existed. Absolutely incredible how much great information you have found! More than I hoped for. |
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Johanne Jensdatter Bidslereie (1852)
