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kevinconroy
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 Posted - 07/10/2015 : 15:41:43
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Hi, I am looking for the parents and or siblings of my great great grandfather Andrew Peterson born 6 April 1849, Fredrikstad, Østfold, Norway. He arrived in the USA in May 1874 in Portland, Maine.
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jkmarler
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kevinconroy
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 17:26:52
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Originally posted by jkmarler
This doesn't help with parents or siblings but may be your guy in the 1865 Norwegian census, occupied learning sail making:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037981003006
Yes, this is a start. In the 1880 USA census he was a sail maker in Portland, Maine. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 17:32:58
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A good candidate born in Glemmen at Fredrikstad. Glemmen merged with Fredrikstad 1963.
Andreas b. April 6. bapt. Mai 4. 1849.
Parents; Andreas Petersen and Anne Helene Andreasdatter, see #26
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/10/2015 17:39:25 |
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jkmarler
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 20:14:08
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Oh - now I see this was included in jkmarler post.
1875 census in the town of Fredrikstad
Address: 167 Brogade
Andreas Pettersen born 1800
Anne Helene Andreasdatter b 1807
Petrine Pettersen f 1835
Sophie Emilie Pettersen b 1838 or 1837 (transcriber couldn't read)
Hans Hendrik Pettersen b 1845
Petter Adolf Pettersen b 1846
Gustav Pettersen b 1852
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052006004192
Petter is listed but not living here - he's a seaman.
The 1865 census gives the kids the patronymic name Andreassen based on their father's FIRST name Andreas, but the family has switched or did switch to the "modern" style of using the father's LAST name, Pettersen. A normal cultural pattern. |
Edited by - JaneC on 07/10/2015 20:35:42 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 22:29:28
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A possible birth for Anne Helene Andreasdatter, 19 March 1807 in Glemmen, to Andreas Pethersen and Anne Maria Sorensdatter:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHMF-T5H
MARRIAGE
for the parents of Andrew Peterson (of Portland, Maine).
Anne Hellene Andreasdatter, 24 years old in 1831, in Glemmen, to bachelor Andreas Hansen
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CHILDREN
of Andreas and Anne Hellene (returned with jkmarler adds of Marie and Peter).
Marie b Dec 1831
Peter b 08 Nov 1833
Petrine, born 27 March 1836 in Glemmen to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and Anne Helene Andreasdatter; think it says baptized at home and the baptism confirmed in church 19 June 1836
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Sophie Emilie, born 13 December 1838 in Glemmen, to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and wife Anne Helene Andreasdatter in --?--
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Hansine Andrea, born 28 May 1841 in Glemmen, to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and wife Anne Helene Andreasdatter in Forstaden.
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Hans Henrik, born 16 October 1844 in Glemmen, to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and wife Anne Helene Andreasdatter
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Peter Adolph born 08 Nov 1846 in Glemmen, to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and wife Anne Helene Andreasdatter in --?--
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Andreas birth, posted above by Kåre
born 06 April 1849 in Glemmen to roerkarl Andreas Petersen and Anne Helene Andreasdatter
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Gustav birth 04 April 1852 in Glemmen to roerkarl Andreas Hansen and wife Anne Helene Andreasdatter in --?--
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Back to say the place Glemmen refers to baptism at Glemmen church - to clarify it's not a reference to a more specific birthplace within the parish. |
Edited by - JaneC on 09/10/2015 04:52:32 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 23:08:11
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Maine Death Records (Ancestry.com) - typed
Andrew Peterson, age 72
Occupation: sail maker
Widowed
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1849
Place of Birth: Norway (handwritten note, probably "Forstaden")
Death Date: 19 Jan 1922
Death Place: Portland
Residence: 6A Washington Avenue
Registration Place: Portland, Cumberland
Father: Andrew Peterson occupation: seaman
Mother: Annie H Loten
** Ancestry not letting me open the original document to clearly view all. |
Edited by - JaneC on 09/10/2015 01:18:46 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 23:11:01
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Occ Roerkarl means he was a row-man (boat)
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 23:14:28
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It's rather peculiar that the father's name is undergoing a transformation in use also. For his marriage and most of the children's baptism he is listed as Hansen and for public records like census schedules he is listed as Pettersen.
This may be him in the 1801 census 1 year old son of Hans Pettersen in Fredrikstad:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058191001415
There is an Andreas Petersen b abt 1799 in Fredrikstad also in the 1801 census. I wonder if Hans has a second name as in Hans Petter Pettersen?
In the baptisms noted with a question in Jane's post as 'i ?" the place is Forstaden. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/10/2015 23:17:20 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 23:37:58
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In the baptisms noted with a question in Jane's post as 'i ?" the place is Forstaden.
Forstaden in Fredrikstad was the former name of the area that today is the southern part of Vestre (Western) Fredrikstad.
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/10/2015 : 23:55:52
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Helpful comments. One of the U.S. records for Andrew had a handwritten, hard-to-read birthplace. Pretty sure now, that it said "Forstaden."
In the 1885 census, Anne Helene Pettersen is noted as a widow. With her are daughters Petrine and Sophie Emilie:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01053251001827
Seven children are noted as surviving when the father Andreas died, Six children are listed so far, in this thread. |
Edited by - JaneC on 08/10/2015 00:22:36 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 00:06:05
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
It's rather peculiar that the father's name is undergoing a transformation in use also. For his marriage and most of the children's baptism he is listed as Hansen and for public records like census schedules he is listed as Pettersen.
This may be him in the 1801 census 1 year old son of Hans Pettersen in Fredrikstad:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058191001415
There is an Andreas Petersen b abt 1799 in Fredrikstad also in the 1801 census. I wonder if Hans has a second name as in Hans Petter Pettersen?
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Loudthinking 
Very strange and confusing.
If the 1801 census has the right Andreas born in Forstaden, Fredrikstad, he was bapt. Andreas Hansen but changed lastname to his fathers lastname Pettersen when Andreas was born 1849 for reasons we do not know.
Both names can be correct.
Do not be confused Kevin 
Andreas b. 1849 was acc. to the church books bapt. Andreas Andreasen (he was Andreas son) but lived his life as Andreas Pettersen.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 08/10/2015 00:09:16 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 00:18:08
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In the 1865 census for the family there is this daughter:
01 Hansine Andrea Andreasdatter* 25 Fredrikstad Datter ug
There is quite a lot of detail in Andreas' dødfallsprotokol would someone read & report? |
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JaneC
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 00:28:57
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Added Hansine Andrea to the siblings list above - born 28 May 1841 in Glemmen, Østfold fylke
U.S. Naturalization Records:
Name: Andrew Peterson
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1849
Birth Place: Norway
Age at event: 39
Court District: Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont
Year of Arrival: 1874
Date of Action: 7 Sep 1888 |
Edited by - JaneC on 08/10/2015 00:54:07 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 00:37:05
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Here is Anne Helene's dødfallsprotokol #63. I think it says she has a house and she's survived by 4:
Source information: Østfold county, Fredrikstad by, Dødsfallsprotokoll 2 , 1882-1892, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Permanent page-link: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27409/44/
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