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AntonH
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  17:19:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is likely the baptism record from Ancestry.com on Johan Severin.

Johan Severin Karlsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johan Severin Karlsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 mai 1838 (16 May 1838)
Baptism Date: 24 aug 1838
Baptism Place: Langestrand, Larvik, Vestfold, Norway
Father: Carl Frederik Schulze
Mother: Elisabeth Berven
FHL Film Number: 127585

See number 16

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1253&idx_id=1253&uid=ny&idx_side=-78

Fathers marriage

Name: Carl F. Schulze
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Date: 1798
Marriage Date: 26 apr 1825
Marriage Place: Langestrand,Larvik,Vestfold,Norway
Spouse: Elisabeth Berven
FHL Film Number: 127585

Last entry, left page

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1253&idx_id=1253&uid=ny&idx_side=-121

Elisabeth Breven in 1801 Census

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058283002606

This family has a tree on Geni.com

http://www.geni.com/people/Christian-Ernst-Schulze/6000000022972505081?through=6000000022972406870

Edited by - AntonH on 22/11/2015 18:31:23
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  03:04:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wanted to find someone named Johan born in 1837, or 1838 in Larvik Vestfold with some connection to Dahl. Here is the only one I have found when looking through the parish records for Larvik in those years.

Name: Johan Theodor Antonsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 nov 1837
Baptism Date: 16 jan 1838
Baptism Place: , Larvik, Vestfold, Norway
Father: Anthon Singdahlsen
Mother: Maren Margrethe Horn
FHL Film Number: 127583

See number 8 left page

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7778&idx_id=7778&uid=ny&idx_side=-68


Here he is in the 1865 Census using the name Theodor Singdahlsen. Interesting his Occupation is listed as Contoirfuldmægtig, similar to that listed for Johan Dahls occupatio on Mahtildie's confirmaton.
He is married with one small child.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038107004651

In 1875 Census wife Petra and son Anton seem to be living with another man. So he has either changed his name, divorced or what?

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052139000224

He is still alive for birth of last child in 1875 Census See 119

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5921&idx_id=5921&uid=ny&idx_side=-45

END OF THE LINE

He died in 1874, see 103.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5922&idx_id=5922&uid=ny&idx_side=-100


Edited by - AntonH on 23/11/2015 03:39:17
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  12:00:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#53 Harald Nicholie Johansen, uægte, son of ungkarl (so never married bachelor as opposed to widower) Johan Severin (corrected from Lauritz) Schulze:
Source information: Oslo county, Grønland, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1878-1888), Birth and baptism records 1885, page 265.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5790&idx_id=5790&uid=ny&idx_side=-275

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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  13:38:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Parts of Hedrum were absorbed into Larvik, so here is a long shot Johan Hansen on Bredal in Hedrum b 1837:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038123004977

Born on Bredal, too #25:
Source information: Vestfold county, Hedrum, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1835-1848), Birth and baptism records 1837, page 27.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1241&idx_id=1241&uid=ny&idx_side=-31

A possible siting in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037151001477
Wedding info for the 1900 couple. Groom's fatheris the decease Hans Knudson:
Source information: Vestfold county, Hedrum, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1857-1868), Marriage records 1868, page 264.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1244&idx_id=1244&uid=ny&idx_side=-276


The man in 1865 Hedrum's father is Hans Christensen so he is still on the table as a possible.

Edited by - jkmarler on 25/11/2015 01:50:11
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  17:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Harald son of Johan Schulze and his mother Julie Hansen in 1885 Census, way at the bottom.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01053257085504

Edited by - AntonH on 23/11/2015 18:13:48
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  18:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here they are in 1910 but her birthyear is altered to 1858:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036392232292
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JaneC
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Posted - 23/11/2015 :  23:09:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the seeker have copies of the originals of Mathilde's various USA records? Might be a clue there. If her father is named, a middle initial for him might be included, etc.

Marriage
Name: Matilda Dahl
Marriage Date: 27 May 1907
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Spouse's Name: Edward D Rutledge
FHL Film Number: 1313341


Death
Name: Mathilda O. Rutledge
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1882
Death Date: 8 Jan 1968
Death County: Hennepin
State File #000601; Certificate #000601; Certificate Year 1968; Record #1694395
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  01:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When Mathilde lands in New York, she says she's going to Madison, Minnesota (which is in Lac Qui Parle county) to a friend (?) Henry Rust / Rask or Broe / Bue. Could use another set of eyes to facilitate interpretation.
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  02:00:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I read it as Henry Rush Broe or Broc or Brae 2? Aone, Looking at the other writing above this, it would appear to be a name Henry Rust followed by an address. And looking at some of the others it may be Box 2?

The closest I have been able to come to this name is in Pope County, Pope is not adjacent to Lac Qui Parle County but it is close. But he immigrated in 1870 as a child so how would he know her?

Name: Henry Rust
Age: 33
Birth Date: Apr 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Hoff, Pope, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Helga Rust
Marriage Year: 1892
Years Married: 8
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Rust 33
Helga Rust 28
Alina Rust 8
Martha Rust 6
Celma Rust 4
Herman Rust 2

Edited by - AntonH on 24/11/2015 02:12:18
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  03:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 1885 Edward Rutledge was living in Watonwan County, Minnesota with his family Patrick D. Rutledge and Mary Miller Rutledge. Minnesota State Census
In 1900 Edward Rutledge was living in Wilmar, Kandiyohi County Minnesota as a lodger age 16. 1900 US Census.
In 1995 Edward Rutledge was living in Minneapolis ward 5, Hennepin County, Minnesota with his brother Daniel Rutledge and Daniel's wife Gertrude born in Norway.

Name: Gertrude Rutledge
Age: 25
Census Date: 14 Jun 1905
County: Hennepin
Locality: Minneapolis Ward 5
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
LINE: 6
Roll: MNSC_123

From FAG
Gertrude C Drolson Rutledge
Birth: Mar. 1, 1880
Modum kommune
Buskerud fylke, Norway

Father Hans Andersen
Mother Ann Helene Corniulsdatter

Edited by - AntonH on 24/11/2015 16:26:29
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  14:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gertrude Rutledge, in census after census gives her birthplace as Norway but her migration date as 1881 or even 1880. There are not that many people with last name Drolson (probably Drolsum after the farm in Modum.)
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  17:02:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mother Anne H Corneiulsdatter and family leaving in 1880. She may be Dagny on next page. Three months old.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=23225&merk=23225#ovre

Dagny

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000939354

But named at birth

Name: Gunda Caroline Andersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 mar 1880
Baptism Date: 25 apr 1880
Baptism Place: Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Father's Age: 1841
Mother's Age: 1841
Father: Hans Andersen
Mother: Anne Helene Corneliusdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282533
Reference ID: BK11 P16 CN18

Edited by - AntonH on 24/11/2015 17:16:07
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2015 :  23:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Using the NHDC website to search for Johan born 1836 to 1840 born in Laurvik or Laurvig or Larvik or Larvig for 1865 Census does not turn up a lot of candidates. Here they are. Most of them already surfaced by Jackie.

Johan Trulsen married one small child. living Larvik Langenstrand occupation Sømand, birth place Laurvik
In 1875 he is a patient in a Sømand Belegget paa Amt Sygehus

Johan Jacobsen married on small chid living Larvik Langenstrad occupation Smed, birh place Laurvik

Johan Oluf Thomasen married no children living in Larvik occupation Maskinarbeider birth place Laurvig Kjøbs.
Found in 1900 Census

Johan Sørensen unmarried living in Larvik Langenstrand occupation Skibsfører birth place Laurvik

Johan F Hansen married two children living Larvik Langenstrand occupation
Søemand birth place Laurvik

Died before 1875, posted by Jackie

Johan Thygesen unmarried living in Austre Moland birth place Laurvig
Likely found by Jackie in 1900 Census

In 1875 a new name (old to us) shows up
Johan Schulze Logerende occupaton Agent, born in Laurvik

If as Jane suggested we can obtain a middle initial it might just narrow things down to a man or two.




Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2015 03:41:08
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/11/2015 :  01:20:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan F Hansen can be eliminated as his wife Charlotte is listed as a widow in 1875;
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052139007899
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/11/2015 :  02:09:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This may be Johan Thygeson with an interesting variation on Laurvig birthplace in 1900:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036543014195
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