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ROBJE
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 Posted - 25/10/2018 : 21:04:34
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....to cmanilla below:
While trying to figure who in our clan was the first to begin the onslaught on America, I'm looking at one Simen Olsen of Roland farm in Faaberg (dob 1824).
Church records strongly suggest he is the Olsen who married Sigrid Pedersdatter. By the 1865 census, they and their brood of four daughters are living as husmand med jord in Faaberg. The family does not re-appear on the 1875 census, and nicely matches other family trees which show them as being first in Wisconsin, and then Minnesota.
Confound it, however, I cannot find any records of their emigrating or arriving. (The arkiverket emigrantprotokoll has never been good to me.I suspect it is programmed to reply 0 TREFF)
Nor do they pop up convincingly as either Olsen or Roland in any censuses or familysearch or newspaper archives that I can find, which makes me very hesitant about accepting the tree-matching as being factual.
This has been a nine-hour investigation for me, which I know is equal to 20 minutes in Norway Heritage time.
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 21:39:39
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The family does not re-appear on the 1875 census,
Is this not them in the 1875 Census
1875
Same family in the 1865 Census, but two children born after 1865 and two children missing in 1875 that were in the 1865 Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 21:54:18 |
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Hopkins
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ROBJE
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 21:46:13
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| Yes, Lyndal. My sloppiness in posting. I had seen that, and should have added they disappeared after that reapparance. I humbly genuflect. |
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ROBJE
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 21:50:11
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| Howdyoudothat, Hopkins? I did like that gamal versjon you quickly unearthed, and cannot get a handle on the new system. I be grateful. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 21:57:48
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Here is the family arriving in New York in 1886.
Simon Olsen
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957Name: Simon Olsen
Arrival date: 29 Oct 1886
Birth Date: abt 1826
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Copenhagen, Denmark and Scandinavian Ports
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Geiser |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 22:20:04
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Anna Simensdatter born Jan 11, 1872 in Faaberg would seem to be the same person as Anna Roland who married John Arthur Stensing. However birth date is off by one in the death record.
Anna Roland
in the Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980
Name: Anna Roland
Gender: Female
Age: 23
Birth Place: Norway
Spouse: Andrew Stensing
Child: John Arthur Stensing
FHL Film Number: 1498836
Anna Stensing
in the Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002
Name: Anna Stensing
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1872
Death Date: 1 Feb 1964
Death County: Hennepin
State File Number: 022706
Certificate Number: 022706
Certificate Year: 1964
Record Number: 1558918
Original record gives her birth date as Jan 11
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Anna Roland
in the Minnesota, Marriages Index, 1849-1950
Name: Anna Roland
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1893
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Spouse's Name: Andrew Stensing
Spouse Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1380433
Anna Stensing in 1900 US Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 23:04:36 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 22:49:41
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Here is the marriage record of Anna. Witness is Ole S Roland. Likely her brother who was born in 1867.
Baptism record for Ole
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Anna Roland
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1969
Name: Anna Roland
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Feb 1893
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Spouse: Andrew Stensing
Church Name: Minneapolis Parish
Church Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 22:50:20 |
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ROBJE
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 22:54:46
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Takk, Lyndal....but that would seem spooky 'cuz our Anne was in the 1865 Norway census as a six-year old, making her birth date 1859. As Anne Stensing died in 1964, that would seem like one ancient Norwegian/American/human.
Possible but unlikely, no? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 23:07:07
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Yes but they had a second daughter also named Anne. Here from the 1875 Census
Ole Simensen s 1866 Fåberg
Anna Simensdatter d 1871 Fåberg
1875
That makes her about 92 when she died.
She was only sixty eight in 1940
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Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 23:14:12 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 23:22:49
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It is possible that Sigrid was still alive for the 1895 Minnesota Census. There is a Ole Roland age 28 living with a Sigrid Roland age 71 in Minneapolis.
Ole Roland
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Ole Roland
Age: 28
Census Date: 1895
County: Hennepin
Locality: Minneapolis Ward 11
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Race: White
LINE: 32
Roll: V290_69
Here is the record for Sigrid Roland living with Ole
Sigrid Roland
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Sigrid Roland
Age: 71
Census Date: 1895
County: Hennepin
Locality: Minneapolis Ward 11
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Race: White
LINE: 31
Roll: V290_69 |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 23:25:12 |
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ROBJE
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 23:25:55
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Aha!
So they had an Anne in 1859, and then an Anna in 1871, just to confuse amateur genealogy buffs like me. You're awfully good at this stuff, Lyndal. Thank you.
(But my obsession on this gang is waning. The immigration year uncovered by Hopkins means they were not - alas - the first wave of our bunch.) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 25/10/2018 : 23:32:37
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In 1899 Ole married in Hennepin County.
Ole S Roland
in the Minnesota, Marriages Index, 1849-1950
Name: Ole S Roland
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Sep 1899
Marriage Place: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Spouse's Name: Carrie J D Ofstie
Spouse Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1380439
In 1900 he is listed as a Methodist Minister living in Goodhue County
1900
OK I will quite now.  |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/10/2018 23:41:12 |
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