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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 31/01/2020 : 15:01:26
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| All the links on Even Sæther are on page 4 of this topic. |
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 15:33:46
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| Ok, I understand now. Occupation/position = Top Hunter of the 4th Comp. Do you have all access to any military records or Akershus Castle employees? This is really a neat find for me. |
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 16:25:32
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| Hi, is this group members of the Slekt Og Data? The site looks good, but seems expensive. Do you research the same databases? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:16:34
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| I'm not sure what you mean, but certainly some individual bullpen members of Norway Heritage also belong to it even though I don't personally. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:26:15
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Good Morning Anton, I joined and uploaded my Ancestry DNA into the Norway DNA project you mentioned. I am waiting for their assistance. Mr. David Howden is one of their administrators and emailing. I mentioned Albertine Amundsen and Christian Danielsen as my Great-Grandmother. Are you a member? https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/norway/activity-feed
Any other ideas to research ANY connect to explorer Roald Amundsen???? Even with my DNA.
Yes I am a member of Norway Project.
N152778 is the number of my DNA profile and it can be found under Y67 group on the Y color chart for profiles. My oldest know fathers line ancestor is
Syvert Torjussen Herefoss, b. 1590, A-AGD
Here are two newspaper articles on Roald Amundsen and the DNA analysis done on a descendant of his brother for a question as to if had fathered an Intuit child. His DNA Y haplogroup is known but not published.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2012/01/30/norwegian_explorer_roald_amundsen_didnt_father_son_in_nunavut_tests_reveal.html
https://nunatsiaq.com/stories/article/65674dna_results_puts_end_to_long-held_arctic_tale/
My information and the links come from an e-mail from David Wittenberg Howden. Sounds like you are already in contact with him. He is a very knowledgeable person in the DNA field and can be a big help to you.
Now based on the information you have provided I would not think that you are a direct male descendant of Roald Amundsen since I am assuming that you think that if Road Amundsen is a ancestor that it is through Albertine thus not a male ancestor. ie not a Y-DNA ancestor.
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:44:05
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Hi Anton, thank you for this information concerning Roald Amundsen. I remember reading the articles when they first where published. So, within the Norway Project, if a member is DNA linked to Roald Amundsen (or his father and siblings) how will we know? If his DNA is no published???
I am waiting for my "kit" to be accepted/published in the Norway Project. I checked the "Norway Project - DNA Results" and look under Classic Chart or mtDNA and I do not see myself, yet. However, my results are visible in the FamilyTreeDNA. I wrote David Howden and asked how long the transfer will take. I appreciate your reply. If you look at the Norway Project posts, I added two research questions today. :)
I am really excited to learn about my Norwegian heritage. THANK YOU, and others, for helping me. Best, Randy |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:50:19
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Here is the email sent to me by David Wittenberg Howden.
"A Y-DNA test has been analyzed of Roald Amundsens relatives (paternal descendant of his brother etc.)
and claimed inuit descendants. The test was done at "Folkehelseinstituttet" (Norwegian institute of public health)
on behalf of the Fram-museum (I have not seen his Y-DNA published anywhere, but the museum should know..)"
So right now I guess only the Museum knows the Y-DNA. Is there mtDNA data on the Amundsen family. I do not know the answer to that. David may know. |
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:51:45
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Hi Anton, my kit number is B608638. If you happen to see it in the Norway Project, will you please alert me.
I noticed under Alberine AND her husband Christian Dainelsen that "Amundsen" is listed in both. If it is better to upload my mother's Ancestry DNA into the Norway Project - I have access and I have permission. Is the female DNA better? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 17:59:15
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I noticed under Alberine AND her husband Christian Dainelsen that "Amundsen" is listed in both. If it is better to upload my mother's Ancestry DNA into the Norway Project - I have access and I have permission. Is the female DNA better
Questions like the ones above are far better answered by an expert like the folks at Norway Project. |
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 18:02:57
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| Fair enough. I will be patient and wait for a response from admin staff. I found your number in the Y67, but I am new at understanding the DNA structure, so I do not know that the various categories mean. I have heard in the past that the female DNA is stronger than the male. Nevertheless, back to the castle and researching if my ancestor was a prison guard or military? :) |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 31/01/2020 : 18:14:59
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| Hi Anton, so we know Amund Olsen Utgaard HERNES is a descendant of Roald? I thought the Norwegian institute of public health did not release the information. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9224 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 21:42:48
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Amund Olsen Utgaard Hernes is actually the great grandfather of Roald. Goes Roald to father Jens to grand father Ole to great grandfather Amund. The tree descending from Amund is likely built from parish records or least some of it. Some can be built from peoples hopes and wishes. I doubt if much if any of the Tree contains any DNA data. Geni and all web trees for that matter can be a bit short of historical records.
The fun thing about Geni.com is if you have put your family and your ancestors into the big tree, the Relationship Calculator will give you the relationship between yourself and the person you have clicked on. Geni then shows you the path it took from you to the Profiled person.
For me Geni says that
Roald Amundsen is your second cousin twice removed's husband's first cousin once removed's wife's second cousin.
That is through 16 people and it also says
Roald Amundsen is your 16th cousin once removed.
That is through 31 peopole and looking at the path it does go though some people that are historically dubious.
It does illustrate that in a small country like Noway, if you go far enough back you can usually find some path from you to the historical figure. For what that is worth.
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2020 : 22:01:35
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| Interesting! I started a Geni account today, transferred my tree and already transferred my DNA. So if I type Roald’s name, somewhere it might say he’s a relative? |
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Randall Fisher
Junior member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 23/02/2020 : 15:08:49
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| Dear Anton, I am seeking your help. I have uploaded my DNA into the Norway DNA project. My kit # is B608638. I do not understand how to review the "DNA Results." I see the "Y-DNA" and "mtDNA" and when I enter I see a lot of data. But am I supposed to see my kit #? I run a search for my number and I do not see it. Can you please search for my number and let me know if you find it? I have emailed David W a few times with no response. Since you are already familiar with this project, I was hoping you can assist. Very Respectfully, Dr. Fisher |
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July 28 2020 in Oslo Finding Albertina Amundsen
