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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 20:41:30
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
Ole Thorjesen's confirmation #8 left hand page. Living on Lønevig under Watneboe SAK, Dypvåg sokneprestkontor, F/Fb/Fbb/L0001: Parish register (copy) no. B 1, 1816-1850, p. 240 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070524320093
Most of the others have a full date of birth but his just says "something" 1805
The reason I went with the confirmation record was I was unable to find the baptism. And likely the pastor couldn't find it also and that's why it was ___ 1805. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 22:53:00
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quote: I see. So for Aslaug Helene the baptism date would be 19 July 1809, if I use the symbols correctly. I've googled the name "alou" and it doesn't seem to be a known name, do you have any idea what else they might have ment?
The baptism date for Aslaug Helene looks to me to be 19 June 1809. (looks like Juni not Juli to me )
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While the parish record does show the name as Alou, it is likely that it would be more commonly spelled Aloug or Asloug. Probably named after her grandmother. Fourth record under 1802 left page
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quote: So far i've also been unable to find the baptism for Ole Terjesen, Syver Terjesen and Allaug Terjesddatter.
I think that Allaug is really Allou -Alloug born in 1802
This is likely Syver or Sivert in the 1865 Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 23/01/2019 02:00:03 |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
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Posted - 23/01/2019 : 13:54:45
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
quote: I see. So for Aslaug Helene the baptism date would be 19 July 1809, if I use the symbols correctly. I've googled the name "alou" and it doesn't seem to be a known name, do you have any idea what else they might have ment?
The baptism date for Aslaug Helene looks to me to be 19 June 1809. (looks like Juni not Juli to me )
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While the parish record does show the name as Alou, it is likely that it would be more commonly spelled Aloug or Asloug. Probably named after her grandmother. Fourth record under 1802 left page
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quote: So far i've also been unable to find the baptism for Ole Terjesen, Syver Terjesen and Allaug Terjesddatter.
I think that Allaug is really Allou -Alloug born in 1802
This is likely Syver or Sivert in the 1865 Census
1865
Anne Kirstine Olsdatter died in childbirth on 16th of April 1821 and Sivert shows to have been born in 1825. I'll look through the censuses, he must have another mother then.
Found him. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9437/87457/26
He's the child of Joran Saxesdatter. But in this link that was posted before: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/37708/1645
Joran Saxesdatter is listed as the wife of Torsten Lind Terjesen, but in the birth record it's the child of Terje Torstensen and Joran Saxesdatter. |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
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Posted - 23/01/2019 : 14:48:03
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Secilia Olsdatter did not die shortly after being born, like you two thought! I just found her, she died on the 25th of September 1851. Look at the bottom of the left page.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9438/87466/1
I don't know why her baptism record said "dead" but here she is, I couldn't find a dead record of her before either and now I know that is because she didn't die back then. |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2019 : 15:14:24
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quote: Originally posted by SvenOlsen
I found Joran Saxesdatter but he appears to have another name written infront of Joran, can any of you see what it says?
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9438/87466/12
Bottom left of the page.
The word is enke or widow. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2019 : 15:24:57
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quote: Originally posted by SvenOlsen
[quote]Originally posted by lyndal40
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He's the child of Joran Saxesdatter. But in this link that was posted before: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/37708/1645
Joran Saxesdatter is listed as the wife of Torsten Lind Terjesen, but in the birth record it's the child of Terje Torstensen and Joran Saxesdatter.
Not exactly its an abstract of the estate settlement of Terje Thostensen, She is in the list as "arving" as widow.
The cross by Terje's name indicates he is the deceased party. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 23/01/2019 15:26:10 |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
48 Posts |
Posted - 23/01/2019 : 22:48:50
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Right hand of the page, number 6. I find it difficult to read but it could it be saying "Peder Terjesen"? The same Peder that left on a ship and has not been heard of for nine years.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9437/87457/87 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/01/2019 : 22:55:49
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Peder Stiansen
One of the witnesses is Stian Pedersen, |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/01/2019 22:56:27 |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
48 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2019 : 00:23:16
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Peder Stiansen
One of the witnesses is Stian Pedersen,
Thank you by the way, for answering all my questions. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/01/2019 : 00:37:29
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quote: In this census the wife of Sivert Terjesen is called "Methe Christensdatter"
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9438/87467/23
Your first link is NOT to any census - but to a birth/baptismal record in 1858.
Christensen/Christensdatter and Christiansen/Christiansdatter are different. |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
48 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2019 : 00:53:43
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quote: Originally posted by Hopkins
quote: In this census the wife of Sivert Terjesen is called "Methe Christensdatter"
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9438/87467/23
Your first link is NOT to any census - but to a birth/baptismal record in 1858.
Christensen/Christensdatter and Christiansen/Christiansdatter are different.
There are two links, one to the census and the other to the birth/baptism record. |
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SvenOlsen
Junior member
Netherlands
48 Posts |
Posted - 24/01/2019 : 00:56:18
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I've noticed that from the early years all the births occured under Vatnebu/Vatnebo/Vatneboe and then there are some sprinkles of Lonnovig under Vatenbu or Vatneboeje. And then in the later years I also start to see Braarvik coming up. (Though with different spelling as Brorvik) Would I be correct in assuming that the sons are splitting land amongst eachother or are they starting new farms? Not sure what's happening. I suppose they could also be living as cotters in different areas I guess. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 24/01/2019 : 01:33:43
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quote: In this census the wife of Sivert Terjesen is called "Methe Christensdatter"
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9438/87467/23
But in the 1865 census her name is Salvine Christensdatter. I figure maybe it's her middle name? One of the two anyway.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/rural-residence/bf01038160004082
Also, wouldn't "Christiansdatter" be more accurate? Seems like it would be a more common name.
You may be looking at two separate ladies. It appears that Syvert Tjerjesen married two times. Both times to daughters of the same mother and father .
First marriage was to Methe Chirstensdatter in 1855.
Name: Syvert Terjesen Gender: Male Age: 30 Birth Date: 1825 Marriage Date: 19 jan 1855 Marriage Place: Dypvåg, Aust-Agder, Norway Father: Terje Thorstensen Spouse: Mette Christensd
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And second in 1863 to Salvine Christensdatter
Name: Syvert Terjesen Gender: Male Age: 39 Birth Date: 1824 Marriage Date: 28 des 1863 (28 Dec 1863) Marriage Place: Dypvåg, Aust-Agder, Norway Father: Terje Thorstensen Spouse: Salvine Christensdr
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Notice the fathers name is Christen in the first marriage and Kristen in the second. Both are correct and the same name. In the two baptism records below the fathers name is spelled Christten in both cases.
Methe was born in 1826
Name: Mette Christensdr [Mette Saxesen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 10 des 1826 (10 Dec 1826) Baptism Place: Flosta, Aust-Agder, Norway Father: Christen Saxesen Mother: Ingeborg Marie Gundersdr
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And Salvine was born in 1829
Name: Salvine Christensdr [Salvine Soxesen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 17 apr 1829 Baptism Place: Flosta, Aust-Agder, Norway Father: Christen Soxesen Mother: Ingeborg Marie Gundersdr
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Now don't get hung up on the last names assigned by the transcriber to the ladies in the baptism records. That is being done a hundred or more years after the actual event and probably by an American who has little if any understanding of Norwegian naming practices.
And the spelling of names in those times varies so there is no correct name, it is what the parish priest wrote down from what he heard. Or the census taker. |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/01/2019 02:07:21 |
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