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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 04/12/2017 : 03:44:40
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Here is a candidate from Nord-Trøndelag. However he is a long ways from the area where Pernille was born.
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And a candidate from Nord-Rana, Nordland found in 1865 not there in 1875
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And two others from Vefsn Nordland that I have not found in the 1865 census.
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Michael Andreas Arnt Mathiasen
29 okt 1843 (29 Oct 1843) 12 nov 1843 Vefsn, Nordland, Norway Arnt Mathias,
Magnild
not living at home in the 1865 Census
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Michael Lars Mathiasen
9 feb 1844 3 mar 1844 Vefsn, Nordland, Norway Lars Mathias,
Massie
Some work needs to be done by me to see if we can at least eliminate some of these candidates |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/12/2017 02:45:10 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 04/12/2017 : 22:23:18
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Thanks for working so hard on this. I would love to know, but he's tricky. I can't find him anywhere in US after he left his wife and 10 children. I've asked my sister to see if there are any clues in Humboldt Co. IA where he lived and she now does. I've also asked the cousin in CA to carefully examine the portraits for any possible clues. Have any of you heard the song Papa was a Rolling Stone? It keeps coming to mind.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/12/2017 : 23:42:06
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Your sister read Norwegian? A Lutheran minister may have made note of where a new congregation member was originally baptised and/or confirmed. The earliest records of the Thor and Badger Norwegian Lutheran churches will have been done in that language. It would probably take careful approach to the church council/current pastor(s) to get permission to view them. Unless of course the old records have been sent on to an archive somewhere.
That of course would NOT find him AFTER he left the family but his ancestral origins are probably still of interest to your family tree.
Do you have some good estimate of WHEN he left the family? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 01:53:06
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I looked more carefully at all of the records from ELCA after Hopkins mentioned above the records of the Thor and Badger churches. The ELCA record for the baptism of son Julius born in 1875 gives a look at a farm name attached to Michael. The name for Pernille is Svendsen and not a farm name.
Julius Martinus Straud
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Julius Martinus Straud
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1875
Baptism Date: 23 May 1875
Baptism Place: Webster, Humboldt and Mower, Iowa; Minnesota
Father: Michael Michaelsen Straud
Mother: Pernelle Herlene Sundsen
Church Name: Ullensvang Lutheran Church
Church Location: Thor, Iowa
The name may not be Straud but it could be something like Strand or Strønd? And it could be a name of a municipality as well.
Witnesses are Ole Olson, Mathilde Olson, Hans C Svendson, Johnaan Iversen |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 02:49:05
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One of the members helping me believes Hans Christian Svendsen is likely my Great Grandmother's 1/2 brother.
This is the first time I saw the name Michaelsen, and it is the correct family. This gives me another clue for looking for him in later years if he used the name again.
Yes, it's the family origin that I am seeking your help with. I am sure that all of you understand that pull to know. I am planning a trip to Norway in 2019 and I'm so excited that I will be able to go specific places where my ancestors lived.
My sister does not read Norwegian. |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 02:57:27
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| I don't see a farm named Straud in Nordland (where Pernille is from), but there is a Strand farm in Rogaland, where many others in Thor originated. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 03:12:30
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Excellent work, Anton!
If you will notice that there is a baptism of an Anne Lovise on the same page as Julius and her father is Julius August Mathisen.... |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 03:24:13
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 03:51:19
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Julius August Mathisen was born in Denmark according to several records. Are we sure that Michael Mathisen was born in Norway.
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I guess if we believe the 1880 Census the answer is yes
Name: Michael Matuson
Age: 38
Birth Date: Abt 1842
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Beaver, Humboldt, Iowa, USA |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 04:38:32
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But very interesting since Michael and Pernille named a son Julius and a daughter Hanna....
At least a few issues of the Humboldt Republican newspaper are in the newspaper.com collection...
The birth / baptism of Emma Powell, the granddaughter of Pernille living with her in the 1900 census was in that same church's records. B. 19 July 1892, bapt 18 Sept 1892, parents Edvart and Albertine Powell and faddernes: Julius, Emelie, Laurentze Mathiasen and Edevart Hals. parents were not members of the congregation.
So other than Julius' baptism, Michael is also characterized as "Strand" for the baptism of Lorensi Amanda and for Karl Ludvig.
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kristinemathiason
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 04:38:36
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Need help with info for great-grandparents
